Why SO many Dogs ! ?

Sometimes, its best for the dog. Why would you keep a dog, feed and water and care for something that bites you or hurts others. Its only for the betterment. It was rough for me at first, but I started understanding why breeders euthanize dogs. You don't need to have a HA Pit out there hurting people. All that does it make it harder for people who LOVE the breed and have to get rid of them because of someone being very upset for not putting down a pup when its truely right not only for other dogs but other humans as well.

 

I agree. Think about it. What if you sold or gave a dog away that you didn't need or want, then it ends up in the hands of a back yard fighter and is horrifically abused and fought over and over again. It would of been better for the dog if you had of euthanized it. This happens more than you think. There are too many people that thinks it is cool to own a pit bull and fight it on street corners and use electric shock on the dog

 

I'm not against it if that's the case.

 

It is hard at first to understand, but I think you understand better now. Breeding may not be for you, but understand that we do know you are entitled to your opinion.

 

Agreed. Breeding isn't for all..Ups and downs are there and sometimes you have to have a tough skin.

 

This is a reply to the originall question:
Yes, I have 6 dogs, 4 is mine and 2 is foster( rescue).
I do work, but I have no kids and my dogs is my hobby, if I go to the beach with my friends, my dogs come along ,if I go hiking in the forest, my dogs come along, if I...????? well... thats acctualy what there is to do down here.

 

If that was the truth, the shelters would all be empty. To cull means to eliminate from your breeding program-period. Every breeder is diffrent, whether that means they spay/neuter the dog and give it to a pet home, or humanely put it to sleep, thats their perogative. I think WWII's quote was spot on, and we wouldnt be in the position we are today if people culled.

By culling animals, you are bettering the entire breed instead of focusing on your own selfish wants. If you have are a hog-hunter and have a dog that wouldnt lay a tooth in the hog, and you just decide to make some food money back by selling it for 100 bucks or whatever-what happens to that dog then? That animal could possibly go to a home not suited to care for a working dog, the animal can be neglected, and even worse-bred. When these animals that dont work out are released to the general public, some idiot will always want to breed them. When that happens (breeding poor specimins of the breed) the quality of the breed as a whole continually decreases. If everyone culled and only bred the best of the best, not only would we have fewer dogs, and fewer problems, but the overall quality of our breed will be better in 15 years than it is today. Thats something that used to take place, now days, I would say the breed was much better off 15 years ago than today! I attribute this to people placing low-quality dogs in the hands of people not fit to care for these animals.

Back to the topic though-why so many dogs? If you are intrested in bettering the breed,and your line, you need to keep as many examples of that line close by to see how well your breedings clicked, and what will make better dogs in the future. If you have a litter of 8, keep 5 on your yard, 2 on a buddies, and 1 at another friends, you know exactly where those dogs are at, can trust they are in good hands, and in 18 months, will know if your breeding was worth a squirt. If you dont hang onto your specimins, you dont have a clue as to what breedings are making good dogs, and which arent. That is one of the distinguishing marks of a byb, a person who doesnt care about the breed as a whole, and once the dogs are gone, forgets about them for the most part. A responsible breeder will keep every single one of those puppies if at all possible. If the breeding doesnt work and he needs to cull 4 out of 8, how is that BS? To me that is better than those 4 sub-standard dogs being placed in homes you cant trust. That is responsibility to the fullest extent,and that is something everyone involved in working breeds needs to exhibit to be an upstanding dog-owner.

 

I have 2 dogs and am getting a working malinois puppy next June. So that means 3. I also am a full-time college student, my dogs are my hobby instead of drinking and partying. They eat all my money. LOL

 

liza, i understand why you are upset, but you must read and learn about this breed if you will own one.. i am involved in rescue, and to be honest,there are NOT enough dog savvy people for most breeds, let alone a pit bull.. and unfortunately, the unsound pitbulls are more prevelent in the shelters then the sound ones, yes, there are sound ones there, but you have to weed thruthe unsound ones to get to the sound ones.. i will euthanize any unsound pitbulls that show human aggression, and any that have permanent health problems that will hinder them in their life that is not treatable. why? because no one wants an unhealthy dog, let alone a pit bull.. i have a gsd here now that is so genetically screwed up health wise she should have been euthed a few years ago, but since i can afford to keep her under a vets care i do.. most people would never want her, as her health issues are too many... most people are not pit bull savy, even some petbull owners. so to keep the breed true to form, the good breeders will mostly euth the dogs that dont meet their standards, they know what they are breeding, and they know all to well the type of people out there that cant handle their dogs or any other dogs.. the breeders who breed true to stock want only the best bred, like in the old days when the breed first started.. cleft palates, mange, deafness, lameness, hip displasia , etc, are all defective genes.. which you do not want passed to the next generation.

if people did their research before they got a dog there wouldnt be shelters now or rescues.. i have turned down alot of people for this breed because they didnt educate themselves.. and i get alot of calls from people who want to give up this breed because they didnt do their homework., so for the true breeders to cull the litters or the adolescents if they see a genetic defect or something they dont want its necessary..

 

and i have 3 dogs, a gsd, a rottx, and a pitx.. plus i foster one dog at a time., that is all i can handle. mine are all house dogs..

 

Every situation is unique. I can imagine that an extremely high-driven working pit dog might not make the best house pet. I bet that Stillwater's dogs are like this and would probably end up in a shelter or in a terrible situation if given away. Not to mention that there is a reputation attached to these dogs. If you are breeding nice dogs and some moron gets one because you thought you were doing the pup a favor instead of euthing it and the jerk fights it in the streets and it gets in the news or word gets out that this poor, abused, burned alive, God knows what dog came from you... what kind of crowd will you attract then? Or what kind of name will you have after that?

Beleive us when we say that there are a million and one VERY nice family-pet dogs available for adoption to people who have no interest in ribbons or titles. These dogs are about to be culled and have been every day for years.

If you want a working dog of any breed you go where working dogs are made. Of course you have to love your dogs with a deep intensity to become so consumed with everything involved in breeding/working. Taking into considersation, $, time, genetics, rules of showing, training, conditioning, travel, research, etc.

The real crime here is not loving your dogs. Whatever you need to do to be responsible and take care of YOUR pack. Those people who own far more than one dog, own a pack. Which is it's own science.

 

It's Very hard!

Well thanks for not attacking me & understanding .

 

I got ya there, it'a a LIFE time commitment, that's for sure!

 

Why not? Who is to judge another on what they do with their time and money? Limitations are bad news. Then you can't help any one or any dog in need be you have the dog limit placed on some one who thinks they can rule what we do. I have 7 dogs I am retired and I will have more if I want too. It sounds like dictatorship. you can only have so many dogs, cats, birds, kids, cars etc. some one is always trying to control someone elses life. What right do those that think like that have to take away ours?

 

Why so many? Because responsible owners can thats why. Take tab dogs for example. This lady had LOTS of dogs, and every single one is so healthy and in good shape, happy....the question is why not? You see, as long as the owner can take good care of the animals, work them all, they can have up to 50 dogs or more, hell its their damn business.

Power to them though!

 

It is a life time commitment! But one I dont have a problem commiting to! lol!

 

I hear that red_chrome. For those that are serious about their dogs, this is more than just a pet who sleeps on the couch, our dogs, and their breed is our obsession. I only have two presently, if you knew my location situation, you would understand why. When you live next door to the cheif of police, yard-accidents that come with a yard full of dogs are kind of frowned upon to say the least. LOL

When I am able to find another place, also out in the country, with a minimum of 4-5 acres, I will be able to taken in the dogs I want to. Its something folks with the city mentality probably wont ever understand as to how anyone can care for 15 dogs a day. Lifes a little more laid back out here, we wake up, feed the dogs, come home from work, and work the dogs. We dont spend 2 hours in traffic each way to work, and we have acres and acres to keep as many dogs as we want. More time + more space= more doggies

 

i agree. as long as they can care for their pets, then they should be allowed to keep as many as possible. What is the limit in California? 4 dogs? I am one of the owners who only has 1 at the moment, but once I buy my own house with a huge yard I will get more another.

 

I see where your coming from, there's tons of people out there that have NO idea what their doing & just get Pit Bulls cuz they think there tuff & want to look cool. I Love my two & am Very happy that I have them, I'm very sure that if I wouldn't have bought Zoey someone with BAD intentions would have gotten their hands on her.

 

Good Liza. Sounds like you've learned from this post.
Think of it this way: If breeders DIDN'T cull, imagine how much MORE the shelters would be crowded?????
And personally, if I had the choice, I'd move on an island with only my dogs, (and bike, of course), and live out the rest of my days in euphoria.
Know why I'd have so many?
Just like the folks here. Because I love this breed and everything they encompass. It's a passion. Plain and simple!