Sell to NON game folks?

A question to those who have real game dogs (not dogs who are from once game lines last tested thirty seven years ago). Would you sell a pup to someone who was NOT going to continue game-breeding him? As in...maybe they wanted to do weight pull or other doggy sports, show, etc. Would you sell them your top prospect or "just" a pet pup? Just pondering...

I know there are responsible breeders (esp. in the SBT world) who won't sell their dogs to folks who want to do bite sport, so I was wondering if this is something along those lines. Of course weight pull/agility/what-have-you is different as far as image and actual activity goes compared to bite sport, but still, it's a deviation from YOUR program (again, if you are truly a game dog breeder).

Of course it's open to discussion to everyone, so feel free to share "just your opinion" even if you don't breed or don't breed game dogs or whatever.

 

I don't breed or sell, but I will give my opinion.

I would hope that people who did sell their dogs to the public for activities such as WP or conformation, sold to people who are highly experienced with game dogs. Well basically it would be stupid not to sell to anyone but those.

Yet there are folks out there like me who don't have the experience and knowledge that would be acceptable (IMO) for acquiring such a dog. Yet in my situation, in the far future, I hope to know and experience as much as these dogs as I can. That being said, how would a person learn and get the feel for these dogs if having not been around them constantly? I plan to "work my way up".

If one must sell to the public and the public wishes to do WP or other activities, I would think that an experienced person who can give the dog a good home and still work it, would be a nice candidate. As for selling a "top prospect" - ehh. If it's what you consider your top prospect, might as well find out yourself.

 

well i rarely sell to the public i think i have sold 3 dogs in the last 10 years to the public and they were fixed before they left my yard.i dont like to sell the the public because i think the vast majority of the public just doesnt know what a true gamebred pitbull is let alone how to handle one,and for that reason i dont like to sell them because there is a strong chance they could fall into the worng hands and i dont want my name tied to it.a good example of this would be,a family came out to your kennel and you checked them out throughly and evrything looks good they take the pup home and have it for 6 months or a year.it gets to hyper or wants to go after the neighbors lab and they have to get rid of it so they either sell it to get their money back or give it to the pound.either way it aint gonna be good for the dog and more than likely it will end up being killed.if it stays at the pound it will be killed espically if it is in a state that has laws preventing them from adopting bulldogs,or it goes to a unsavory type person he beats it to make it mean and then it bites someone and again it will be putdown because he wont claim it is his dog or he puts it down to save him all the trouble of jail time and court actions.so for all the possiable reasons like this,i just prefer to trade dogs or pups or just give dogs or pups away to other dogmen that i know.it has always worked for me and most other dogmen.

 

I for one don't think you CAN "beat a (pit bull) to make it mean." A truly sound dog can't be made mean.

But anywho...I made the post assuming all would understand that this would be a responsible owner, not someone who doesn't understand bulldogs or someone who would get rid of a dog for such ridiculous reasons, or at all really. So assume this is a responsible owner, just not wanting to continue game-breeding.

I do understand the concept of not wanting to sell to the public though...that makes plenty of sense, but at the same time what is considered "the public," what's "someone you know?" Someone who you became familiar with on a forum, for instance? Are they "the public" or "someone you know?"

Anywho, I appreciate the responses thus far.

 

I've never bred a dog, but I will tell you if the day comes-my dogs will only be going in hands of people I feel are capable of caring for the animal in the utmost and allowing it to perform to its fullest. If the dog is leaving my yard, it will only be to a better home, never worse. Theres no sense in farming out dogs to people who will do nothing with it, you could have a litter of dogs with the stuff to make Champion, and never know it. A breeder who is actually trying to improve on his line, and the breed would always keep track of his dogs and make sure they are given every chance to succeed.

 

That's the right Idea...

 

Okay, so in short you consider weight pull, agility, health testing, and conformation "doing nothing." Veddy interesting.

That's kind of the response I expected though...those who have been selecting for game dogs for so long wouldn't want to potentially lose that trait, even if the dogs are being bred for other activites, you really would never know whether they are still game or not. Was just wondering how game folks would feel about being attached to a dog who is "proven" in all legal methods available (proven in the sense that he has working drive, athleticism, proper structure, etc.)...but still...if your "only" goal is to produce game dogs I would see how this wouldn't be something one would want to consider.

 

Dont put words in ppls mouth, you asked a vague question and got a vague response.

The questions were/are Kinda loaded IMO to boot.

 

well thats a risk i will never take cleve.any dog like any person no mater how sound or well trained can only take so much and if someone throws him in a closet and only comes around to beat the shit out of the dog or throw some food at it,he aint going to last very long before he goes insane much like if someone did the same to you,i am sure you couldnt live the rest of your life like that with out going crazy and maybe killing the person who is doing it to you.and for you to say a truely sound dog ''cant be made mean'' is ridiculious,if it is being treated like i described above it is not truning mean it is going insane,and yes people do this to their dogs thinking that them going crazy is them being mean.as far as me farming out or trading,giving away certain dogs to people i know,what i meant by that was people i have known personaly for many many years and know exactley what they do with their dogs and how they raise them,thats what i meant by people i know.if i had to sell to the public and by public i mean someone who comes to my kennel and pass all the questions and pass the home visit and such,if i had to sell to them and thats a very big if i would only sell to a home like rock described.it would have to go to a better home than mine never a worse one.