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altered dogs??

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by PIT_DOMINATION, Jul 4, 2006.

  1. PIT_DOMINATION

    PIT_DOMINATION Big Dog

    for the ones that have had their dogs ALTERED. have you seen any changes in the dog??
     
  2. Aceman

    Aceman Big Dog

    Just had my pup done a few days ago. I do not see any changes in him as of yet.
     
  3. purplepig

    purplepig CH Dog

    Ah...... Just WHAT are we speaking about? "ALTERED", ... that sounds kinda....scary. Are you saying...like...a ....sex-change?





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  4. PIT_DOMINATION

    PIT_DOMINATION Big Dog

    spayed.... not being able to breed.
     
  5. purplepig

    purplepig CH Dog

    I was joking!!

    I have always noticed them getting fat and round. Was told that if they are done before 1st heat it makes this effect better.
    J
     
  6. davidlau_2002

    davidlau_2002 Top Dog

    loss in muscular build and skin tone seems looser. marking territory is gone and drooling while smelling female scent is gone. he was neutered at 1 years old and his drive to hump females and other toys is completely gone. his aggressiveness has toned down in certain situations but in others it has stayed completely the same. i would say that neutering only curbs aggression while female heat. but during aggressive play that excalates into fights, this seems to not calm my dog down one bit. he also has certain other dogs that he did not like before the neutering and still does not like even after. but it definitely does affect his muscle tone and muscle size. this may sound even wierder but after he was neutered he looks taller but that could be the loss in muscle tone. he looks lankier and thinner.
     
  7. JCleve86

    JCleve86 Big Dog

    It's likely that people notice dogs getting "fat and lazy" after a spay or neuter because generally most folks get dogs fixed around 1 year...maybe 2. Really, after this age is when the dogs start to slow down naturally as they mature...fixing them has nothing (or very, very little) to do with it. Both of my dogs were fixed at 4 months and I didn't note any changes in behavior. And both are in excellent condition now at 3 years old...condition has a LOT more to do with what your feeding your dog, how your exercising him, and of course genetics than it has to do with whether or not he has balls.

    I went to search for some pictures of fixed dogs in excellent condition, but couldn't locate them. Hopefully bahamutt will be along soon and post pics of her spayed girl Loki for me...the dog is stunning. I wouldn't say spaying her slowed her down one bit!

    SO...to the OP...there are generally no noticable changes in a dog after being altered. In *some* cases it may cut down on dog aggro IF the aggro is rooted in hormones (male dogs trying to be dominant with other male dogs, etc.). It will also cut down on the likelihood of your dog wanting to roam to find a mate, and will eliminate any stress or um...unwanted behaviors...resulting from male dogs smelling females in heat (which they can detect from miles away). So if anything, it may cut down on unwanted behaviors, and also completely eliminates the risk of unwanted litters, either yours or your neighbors.
     
  8. Verderben

    Verderben CH Dog

    The dog we have that is spayed almost immediately blew up and looks like a damn foot stool. She has been cut down to 1 CUP of food a day ( I cant cut her down anymore) and gets walked daily and runs in the yard with the other dogs as best she can but since she is so fat its hard for her to keep going. and she just keeps getting fatter. I feel bad for her and its my fault she is that way because I am the one that insisted on getting her fixed.
     
  9. LuvinBullies

    LuvinBullies CH Dog

    Absolutely- my adolescent pittie, Dante, has every desireable personality trait a bully should have except for one thing: Balls to the wall, all systems go HYPER 24/7. This slightly annoying traint, coupled with the fact that he isn't registered, moved us to have him neutered. Now his indoor manners are much better and more manageable (still a bit of a live wire when the others get going). He still routinely executes a perfect 6 ft wall jump/run sideways maneuver on our 8 foot privacy fence just for fun, but at least that's outside...:o)

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  10. bahamutt99

    bahamutt99 CH Dog

    Loki started putting on weight after her spay, but I increased her exercise and eased up on some of the extras I was giving her, and she looks good now. No change in her basic temperament.
     
  11. ABK

    ABK Rest In Peace

    High Volatage - I would take her to the vet for a full check up including a blood panel if you haven't already. Massive weight gain is NOT supposed to be a by-product of having a dog S/N & there may be an underlying medical cause for your girl's gaining so much weight.
     
  12. pennsooner

    pennsooner CH Dog

    Since I got Stockey from the shelter and he didn't get nutered till he was 6, he acts much like an un-nutered male. He is still VERY interested in girl dogs and at 11 years old is still hardly fat. Pics in my gallery are of him at 10.
     
  13. Boss' Mom

    Boss' Mom Big Dog

    I got Boss fixed at 6 months old. He hasn't changed one little bit...except he doesn't try to hump anything and everything anymore. Thank God cause he was gross, I've never had a dog that wasn't altered before. All the dogs I've ever had were spayed/neutered, and they did not get fat, lose drive or anything ridiculous like that. They just stopped humping stuff.
     
  14. BoiBoi

    BoiBoi CH Dog

    Funny thing is i hear people saying that there dogs hump things before they are fixed, but my dog isn't fixed and he has never humped anything. Humping is a sign of dominence so im guessing because I'm always dominant over my dog he never humps things. He plays with my neighbors apbt who tries to hump him sometimes but my dog justs pushes him off.
     
  15. Boss' Mom

    Boss' Mom Big Dog

    Yeah humping is a sign of dominance when a dog isn't humping because they're horny lol. Boss would hump pillows, his stuffed animals, people's legs (not mine) other dogs. As soon as he got fixed, all this behaviour stopped. He is a dominant dog, but he is also confident and he has never humped another person or dog since he got fixed.
     
  16. jessiepbg

    jessiepbg Big Dog

    I was working with a Shepherd that was really bad about guarding his territory from anyone and everyone. He would do exactly what he wanted to do, when he wanted to do it. He was neutered at 5 years old and all the aggressive behavior slowed down. He still is a bit stubborn(and he still pees on everything), but he is controllable now. He didn't gain any weight either. He's just thin as a board and has enough endurance to keep moving all day long. I've seen quite a few un-neutered dogs and many of them were pretty overweight. It's not just whether they are able to mate that affects their weight.
     
  17. 14rock

    14rock GRCH Dog

    The excessive weight gain/lazy dog myth is a MYTH. There is 100 percent no diffrence between my spayed females personality, attitude, or size before or after the spay.
     
  18. purplepig

    purplepig CH Dog

    well, as to the "myth" of the overweight spayed dogs, my eyes see that the majority of dogs that have been spayed, especially after 1 yr. of age, have gotton round. You say, it's the food, but the diet did not change! What causes it? I dont know. Is it the hormonal difference?, but the fact is that the majority of spayed dogs around here are round. You can see one and ask,"Is the dog spayed?" "Why, yes it is! How did you know?" ah.... because of the plumpness in the body!
    J
     
  19. 14rock

    14rock GRCH Dog

    I know just as many hog-fat intact dogs as spayed/neutered slim dogs. Its not a matter of the surgery, its the matter of a owner who allows their dog to eat too much and lay around all day.

    Secondly, unless you have exact twins and spay one at birth and dont ever spay the other, you will never know what effect the surgery had! Since this doesnt happen, its all speculation on both ends. All I can tell you is my spayed girl was fatter BEFORE the surgery than after.
     
  20. purplepig

    purplepig CH Dog

    All I was saying, was what I have speculated, not giving scientific evidence. I am sure that your spayed female is exactly what you have stated. I simply have seen ALOT of females get spayed, after the age of 1 year, who's diet did not change, and exercise did not change, yet their bodies did. That is simply all that I am saying, hence is actually IS my belief that the spaying had a great deal to do with this. This is my belief, as yours is the exact opposite, and that is ok with me that we have two different belief systems. Dont want to get into a religous war over spay/neuter(especially when I dont think I can spell the last one properly!!) I agree, that it is speculation on both ends. I use to subscribe to schools of thought which were taught by people I looked up to, then I opened up my eyes and began to use my own eyes and mind, that is simply what I am applying in this instance. I would quickly change my mind when my eyes begin seeing other things.
    Having said all this, what age did you spay your girl?
    J
     

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