altered dogs??

i had pepper spayed at 8 weeks and a day and she was the same as soon as the drugs wore off. i would advise getting it done as a pup if possible b/c it is supposedly not as hard to recover from.

 

I would agree with you. I have been told that when you do this as a pup, before their first heat, that it makes a tremendous difference in how this proceedure effects the dog.

Has anyone here spayed their dog after a year or so? If so, could you tell us how it effected her?

J

 

I could also use my previous dog, a terrier Bitch named Isis as an example. She got spayed about around 5 yrs. because I was being irresponsable (although I did NOT allow her to get pregnent) anyway, NO DIFFERENCE at all. Hellfire before, hellfire after, no weight gain or change in temperment.

 

I think someone mentioned this before, but a dog will naturally begin to get thicker at a year to a year and a half. It has nothing to do with the neuter. To once again bring another breed into the equation, Boxers almost always look half-starved until they hit a year or so. Once they are fully grown, they gain weight very quickly if you don't watch them. There were five or six intact pit bulls(RE lines, so they should probably be called AmStaffs)that used to board with the shelter that were absolutely huge. None of it was muscle. There is also an intact Bulldog that boards quite often and is a little thicker than he should be. Hormones rarely come into the equation with weight unless there is a medical condition.

 

my mom's five yr old GSD was spayed at 3mos. and she is only about 3lbs over wieght right now but that's my parents fault they let her lay around and do nothing all day long. They never really even walk her.

 

I had my GSD spayed at about 1 1/2- and she is just as wiry as ever- no real change. We have had a really hard time keeping good weight on her and I hoped the spay might make a difference, but it didn't.
Temperament-wise she lightened up a bit and relaxed around company a bit more. She's still a quirky thing, but that's part of her charm I guess!

BETH

 

There's a simple explanation for weight gain after 1 yr of age. Metabolism. Most dogs metabolisms start to slow down at that age, that's why you have to watch what they eat and ensure they get enough exercise. Puppies burn fat off very quickly, adult dogs (not all) have slower metabolisms. I'm hoping Boss' will friggin slow down now that he's 12 months, because I've got to feed him more than the maximum recommended amount right now so that he maintains weight. Anyway, spaying a dog at one year of age, will absolutely not make the dog gain weight.

I've only ever had one female dog, she was a dog my mom fostered for awhile, and she was spayed at 1.5 yrs of age. She was still nuts even after she was spayed, that mutt never stopped running. Also, our family dog, Bear (lab/newfoundland cross), was neutered at one year of age, and the only difference was he seemed to be a little less territorial, and he stopped trying to run away. He did not gain weight...well until he got pretty old like when he was 7 or 8.

 

I've never noticed any changes in my dogs. Precious, I will not count as, she's had 2 previous owners before me. I do run them all daily, it helps alot.

 

Just thought it was common knowledge that a dog grows tall the first year, and wide the second.(I am not very knowledgeable of other breeds, but all the bulldogs I have had, this is the general way things go, That doesnt mean that they are sticks at 9 or 10 months, but simply that they get their height by the 1st bday, and then grow wider, not like a barrel) I have never had a spayed bulldog, and I have never had a fat, lazy one either. I have never seen a dog with the barrel look to it that was not spayed. Sorry it doesnt fit the belief of the majority, but I call 'em like I see 'em.
Look, you wana pick apart what I say, that would be something that a little child can do. I am sure that there are many reading this that have seen MANY spayed females begin to sing "Roll Out The Barrel"!!

In case you didnt know, I am joking!!Ha Ha
J

I also heard from someone that if you spay your dog, y9ou should feed it boiled crawfish once a month to keep the weight down. Ever heard of this?

 

My GSD bitch I used to have was spayed at 5 yrs after a nasty Csection and we lost all the pups (breeding is NOT fun sometimes) and she continued to compete in IWPA weight pull, do sledding, protection, running. She was severely dog aggressive her whole life and having her spayed changed that not one bit at all. She was just as active as ever, never fat a day in her life. We always had a hard time keeping weight on her.
Both my dogs are altered right now. Sweetie was when I got her, but you'd never know. She is in good shape, not fat in the least bit. Still extremely extremely high drive and nutty. She is 2.5 yrs.
My other dog Cheddar is a 5yo rottiXbullmastiff and was neutered a few months ago. He did gain weight but I fully beleive it was the gastro food he was on (he had some bloat problems and the rescue put him on the gastro vet food). Its quite high in fat. I have him on EVO now and he is nice and trim, great muscle, perfect weight. He had a LOT of behavioural problems when he came, and his dog aggression has gone down a lot, but most of it has to do with the extensive training he has received since I've gotten him. I do think neutering took the egde off of his DA, mostly the territorial aspect of it. But I have taught him (as with Sweetie) he is not to fight because I say so, I am alpha bitch and I will deal with any problem dogs we may run into, it is not up to him to. With this understanding, he has settled down a lot. But I don't think it has much to do with his being neutered.

 

If you live in the city it’s probably a good idea to S/N your dog it does calm them down.



Everybody’s genetic make up is different and therefore the effects of hormones can vary depending on that animal or persons genetic makeup, Although some things are physiological and your dog maybe be badass, but if you lose the attitude most of he time their goes the your heart/will/game. This is also why some body builders put on more size than others even if their taking the same steroids and doing everything else the same their receptor sites just don’t activate like the other guys.

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S/N does affect your dog if you get it done before he has matured yes you wont notice much because you will never know what his attitude or muscle would have been like.

How many of you guys have worked with or owned breeding stallions they are dangerous and crazy. It sure is nice once you do castrate them. It calms tem down allot you will also notice they lose the puffiness, attitude and muscle mass. In laymen’s terms the higher your testosterone levels are the = more muscle mass, more strength, faster recovery, more aggression, increases nutrient uptake, increases protein synthesis, burns more calories, water retention, increased blood pressure ect,ect. It’s what separates the men from the boys. If you disagree with me research it. If that isn’t enough take some of the strong testosterones like testosterone enanthate, testosterone cypionate anadriol, dianabol or testosterone suspension for 12 weeks then post how you felt before during and after.

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I had to get my 13yr old male neutered after he was attacked by coyotes luckily I was outside and heard the commotion out in the pasture they bit his back legs sphincter and testicles. The doc gave me antibiotics for him but his testicles got infected and he got a bad skin rash being old he couldn’t fight off the infection. He was castrated after his testicles swelled to the size of oranges and I had to put something on his skin for about 3 months. About a month after I noticed he did lose some size especially in his head the bone at the top back part of his head started to stick out allot especially after 2 months.

 

Riley was spayed at about 7 months of age.

 

Yo rock, why don't u have any pics of ur dogs up?

 

I dont know how many times folks have been found stealing pics from members on the site, and getting them into all sorts of trouble. The last straw, when I deleted all the pics, was when Marty and Shons pictures were stolen and posted on a "fight fantasy" board, with the thief claiming to be the owner of the dogs and trying to find a fight for them.

 

damn i didn't realize that was goin on, i feel ur concern.

 

My oldest female was fixed after her first heat. She didn't slow down a bit! Our second girl was fixed at a younger age, before she ever went into heat. She always seemed a bit more docile than Passion, and ended up being built like a male. Of course, she was a rescue that had been hit by a car so we really don't know if she's from larger dogs, or even pure pit at all.....although she seems to be.

 

I found this on the web

Fiction: Neutered or spayed dogs and cats become fat.
Fact: It's true that many neutered pets tend to become obese as the result of hormonal changes and a quieter life style. However, this can be prevented. Keep a watchful eye on your pet's body condition and adjust its diet accordingly. Many times eliminating table scraps from its diet will solve the problem. If necessary, reduce the amount of pet food offered by no more than one-fourth the usual amount. In addition to diet management, encourage your pet to exercise. Regular walks and play time with your dog, and regular play periods with your cat should help prevent obesity.

So to say that spaying has no effect on the weight of the dog is wrong. Hormonal changes AND a quieter lifestyle. So, as my wife told me when we discussed this, hormonal changes do effect weight. Also if the dog had slowed down "quieter lifestyle", as a result of the spaying!! So, ... if you spay an older dog(over a year) and change nothing as to their diet or exercise, they will PROBABLY get the barrel look. I did say probably.
J

 

Ignorance knows no bounds, eh? A wise decision on your part, but unfortunate you felt it necessary because of losers. Also, if a legal outfit lurked on a board like that, it would be your dogs on the look-out profile, not anyone elses. Pretty scary.

 

Please dont take this in the wrong way, as i really want to know, What kind of trouble did they get into?

J
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Nothing was done about the website they were posted on, Marty and Shon cleared it up and made it clear it wasn't them, and we banned the member who did it multiple times. They had a tendency to come back, pretend to own some dogs, lie their face off, and then we would find them all over the web using game-dog.com members pics as dogs of their own. As for actual legal trouble, none officially, but what would of happened to Marty and Shon if they hadn't of been tipped off in time, and authorities acted on the fight fantasy site? If they would of lost their dogs because pictures of them were on the net, with some idiot claiming to be the owner and claiming to be opening weights and saying he/she would kick every dogs ass basically. Those that I trust, have seen my dogs