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Anyone know her bloodline?

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by c10d, Oct 10, 2006.

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  1. c10d

    c10d Big Dog

    I finally got my pups pedigree from ADBA and was wondering what bloodline she is. Is it possible to know from only a 4 generation pedigree, or is a 6 or 7 gen. needed most likely? Anyone know what bloodline she is? Thanks

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    <font size="5"><b>Pedigree for Aquilino's "Camia"</b></font><br>
    <font size="4"><b>American Pit Bull Terrier/Chocolate/Red Nose</b></font><p>
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    <td width="25%" rowspan="8"><font size="3"><i>Sire</i><br>OXFORD'S "RAGING CHANCE"</font></td>
    <td width="25%" rowspan="4"><font size="3"><i>Sire</i><br>SUGIURA'S "PEPE LEPEW"</font></td>
    <td width="25%" rowspan="2"><font size="3"><i>Sire</i><br>HUGHZEE'S "PRETTY BOY BLUE"</font></td>
    <td width="25%"><font size="3"><i>Sire</i><br>WATCHDOG'S "BEELZEBUB</font></td>
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    <td width="25%"><font size="3"><i>Dam</i><br>HUGHZEE'S "BOSSY BOO"</font></td>
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    <td width="25%" rowspan="2"><font size="3"><i>Dam</i><br>JOE'S "RAGING BLUE SABLE"</font></td>
    <td width="25%"><font size="3"><i>Sire</i><br>MARRALES' "RAGING RED BULL"</font></td>
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    <td width="25%"><font size="3"><i>Dam</i><br>BOBBIE'S "RAGING LADY MIAH"</font></td>
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    <td width="25%" rowspan="4"><font size="3"><i>Dam</i><br>SUGIURA'S "SPY LADY"</font></td>
    <td width="25%" rowspan="2"><font size="3"><i>Sire</i><br>SUGIURA'S "MEAN SPIDER"</font></td>
    <td width="25%"><font size="3"><i>Sire</i><br>BARAJAS' "NOTORIOUS JUAN GOTTY"</font></td>
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    <td width="25%"><font size="3"><i>Dam</i><br>"WHITE DIAMONDS DUSTY ROSE"</font></td>
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    <td width="25%" rowspan="2"><font size="3"><i>Dam</i><br>JOE'S "RAGING BLUE SABLE"</font></td>
    <td width="25%"><font size="3"><i>Sire</i><br>MARRALES' "RAGING RED BULL"</font></td>
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    <td width="25%"><font size="3"><i>Dam</i><br>BOBBIE'S "RAGING LADY MIAH"</font></td>
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    <td width="25%" rowspan="8"><font size="3"><i>Dam</i><br>MARCOCCI'S "CAMI"</font></td>
    <td width="25%" rowspan="4"><font size="3"><i>Sire</i><br>OXFORD'S "RAGING CHANCE"</font></td>
    <td width="25%" rowspan="2"><font size="3"><i>Sire</i><br>SUGIURA'S "PEPE LEPEW"</font></td>
    <td width="25%"><font size="3"><i>Sire</i><br>HUGHZEE'S "PRETTY BOY BLUE"</font></td>
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    <td width="25%"><font size="3"><i>Dam</i><br>JOE'S "RAGING BLUE SABLE"</font></td>
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    <td width="25%" rowspan="2"><font size="3"><i>Dam</i><br>SUGIURA'S "SPY LADY"</font></td>
    <td width="25%"><font size="3"><i>Sire</i><br>SUGIURA'S "MEAN SPIDER"</font></td>
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    <td width="25%"><font size="3"><i>Dam</i><br>JOE'S "RAGING BLUE SABLE"</font></td>
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    <td width="25%" rowspan="4"><font size="3"><i>Dam</i><br>HEATHER'S "ELLEY"</font></td>
    <td width="25%" rowspan="2"><font size="3"><i>Sire</i><br>DE GOLIER'S "BULLDOZER"</font></td>
    <td width="25%"> <font size="3"><i>Sire</i><br>VALLONE'S "MACHO PIT"</font></td>
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    <td width="25%"><font size="3"><i>Dam</i><br>VALLONE'S "SASHA"</font></td>
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    <td width="25%" rowspan="2"><font size="3"><i>Dam</i><br>HEATHER'S "RAGING ABBY LANE"</font></td>
    <td width="25%"><font size="3"><i>Sire</i><br>MARRALES' "RAGING RED BULL"</font></td>
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    <td width="25%"><font size="3"><i>Dam</i><br>SHEBA'S "BLACK SPITFIRE BULL"</font></td>
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    -c10
     
    c10d, Oct 10, 2006
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  2. PIt4life

    PIt4life Banned

    Dont take this the wrong way.. but why a dog with this in the ped?? Sire
    BARAJAS' "NOTORIOUS JUAN GOTTY"
     
    PIt4life, Oct 10, 2006
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  3. PIt4life

    PIt4life Banned

    Sorry double post, prolly a Gotty bred dog... take it how it is.
     
    PIt4life, Oct 10, 2006
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  4. BoiBoi

    BoiBoi CH Dog

    oh shit man u got urself a grade A certified BLUFF lol
     
    BoiBoi, Oct 10, 2006
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  5. BoiBoi

    BoiBoi CH Dog

    hold up im a bit confused, is it just me or does his dog not really fit the standard of what it should look like from that ped he got. By looking at that ped i would think the dog would be some big blue thing, but your dog looks average size and a nice red color. How old is ur dog and how much does it weigh right now.
     
    BoiBoi, Oct 10, 2006
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  6. PIt4life

    PIt4life Banned

    The bluffs can come in any color, i have seen buckskin, red, chocolate, black, white, brindle, just about all the colors AND tri colored. ANd pups ushally look normal for the most part, IMO
     
    PIt4life, Oct 10, 2006
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  7. c10d

    c10d Big Dog

    Yeah I understand what you're saying also. Her mother (Marcocci's "Cami") was very fit and not that big bully look AT ALL and was tri colored.

    My pup is 4 months and 2 weeks and weighs 24lbs. She is solid chocolate color and has a red nose.


    When I got her I didn't know much about bloodlines or anything, I just wanted a dog as a companion and to run and workout with. I never would have guessed she was from Gotty.

    -c10
     
    c10d, Oct 10, 2006
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  8. BoiBoi

    BoiBoi CH Dog

    well ill be damned, 24lbs at a little over 4 months doesn't sound like a usual weight for a dog with that ped. Im thinking that there is a big possibility that those papers are hung and that the person u got it from has no idea what the real bloodlines are for this dog, but im just guessing here. Wait another few months and keep us posted i would like to see how the pup turns out because i have a feeling that it wont get over 60 or 70lbs if it keeps going at that rate
     
    BoiBoi, Oct 10, 2006
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  9. Pitbull219

    Pitbull219 CH Dog

    yeah, I don't know any of those other dogs in that ped, but just cuz "Gotti" is in there doesn't mean it's gonna be a hippo, lol. My two blue girls don't have any RE/Gotti, but there is this Greyline dog in there that's pretty big. Mostly mine are from Staff lines, Tufftown, Our Gang, Lar-San, etc. Can anyone explain this to me, this dog is everywhere in my girls' ped: http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=4229

    it says 7XW, but I though Tufftown was AmStaff blood......
     
    Pitbull219, Oct 10, 2006
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  10. BoiBoi

    BoiBoi CH Dog

    u know i see some hughzee's and watchdog in there so i assume that the dog will be pretty big. I saw one of those gotti/razors edge dogs at the ADBA show a few weeks ago and it was just a little pup somethin like 2.5 months old and was already close to 30lbs so thats why i think this dog might have hung papers.
     
    BoiBoi, Oct 10, 2006
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  11. PIt4life

    PIt4life Banned

    I dont think a AmStaff is getting no 7xw, maybe they ment show wins.
     
    PIt4life, Oct 10, 2006
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  12. Pitbull219

    Pitbull219 CH Dog

    yeah, I thought that, but wouldn't there be Ch or GR Ch with 7 show wins??
     
    Pitbull219, Oct 10, 2006
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  13. c10d

    c10d Big Dog

    Hmm well I got a letter from the ADBA stating that the breeder has proven the papers to be accurate. (I'll post EXACTLY what it says later on after dinner)


    But could it be that the other dogs in the ped that arent fat bully blue dogs have dominant genes and that's why she turned out that way?

    And the thing like I stated, was her mother "Cami" had more of a "game dog" physique. Belly tucked, rock solid but pretty lean, strong jaw/head, etc.

    I found another dog on the internet that has the same father as my pup and here is what it looks like (pretty big, I'd say)...
    http://topqualitypa.tripod.com/id1.html

    -c10
     
    c10d, Oct 10, 2006
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  14. c10d

    c10d Big Dog

    EDIT- So I just realized, that dog in the link I just posted is my pups uncle... Her mother (Cami's) brother.
     
    c10d, Oct 10, 2006
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  15. c10d

    c10d Big Dog

    Anymore feedback?

    As far as 4 gens go, what blood is she? Watchdog/Hughzee? :confused:

    -c10
     
    c10d, Oct 10, 2006
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  16. Verderben

    Verderben CH Dog

    alot of those dogs in the ped are big blues. How does a red dog come from blue dogs? what color were her parents?
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 10, 2006
    Verderben, Oct 10, 2006
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  17. Big Game

    Big Game CH Dog

    Id say youre pups color is a deep red not dark enuf to be chocolate. Imo.
     
    Big Game, Oct 10, 2006
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  18. gator

    gator Big Dog

    If you go back on the top side you soon find razors edge.. I believe that watchdog stuff gets hooked up with the razors edge stuff sooner or later?
     
    gator, Oct 10, 2006
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  19. Evil_Elvis

    Evil_Elvis Big Dog

    first off i pit4life i dont think you would of had anything to say if you didnt see the name juan gotty and second off we got some watchdog back in one of our dogs peds and guess what its not a big blue bluff i know this is hard for yall to believe someone could still keep old watchdog blood true to standard


    jmo take it how it is
     
    Evil_Elvis, Oct 10, 2006
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  20. Big Game

    Big Game CH Dog

    Dogmen were using the Red Cochise Martins Ceaser blood in the box. From what I here not vary sucsessfully. I read a thred on a OFRN board that I.M. wrote saying he seen these dog's from this blood perform with his own eyes. He was not impressed. Actualy he said thay were am staff cur's. But the poaster of the thred was someone who still run's Red cochise, Martin's Ceaser blood and was trying to discredit I.M's line. If the blood was ran then and is still beeing ran now.I don't think it imposable to have a 7xwinner with this blood. The bottom half goes back to some Wallace & Colby. Imposable? I dont think so. Improbable? most definatly.
     
    Big Game, Oct 10, 2006
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