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what is a yard?

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by thunderhead, Nov 28, 2006.

  1. cool, i didn't think APBTs where soupse to be kept outside in colder weather, prob just have a nice house for them, i have my 2 dogs in the house and them two take up enough of my time, i just coudn't admagine giving atention to 5 dogs, but thats awsome you guys can.
     
  2. squirt07

    squirt07 Big Dog

    I am ignorant. I thought a Yard was kind of like when the responsible breeders like Atilla Magyar, Purple pig-have ayard.
     
  3. Attila

    Attila Guest

    I lived up in Michigan in Gladwin for 13 years of my youth. Five in Hungary. Gets quite cold there in the winter. I have had this breed for over 30 years. I live in Arkansas now and have 16 dogs. Not a big yard. But growing. Now that I am retired I have nothing better to do than raise dogs, hunt, fish, even show them. Why have more than one dog. Well that is like asking someone why they have more than one pair of pants. It is not why is is because I can. Because I love them. Because I would rather have dogs than listen to some person telling me what to do. I refuse to have any one tell me what I can and can not do. My answer to those that step on my rights is gun fire. Why do people have more than one kid. More than one relative, more than one car, pair of shoes etc. Because we do. Why eat when you're just going to crap it out latter.

    Up in those cold terrible places I had heated dog houses. I still have some but mainly for welping bitches in our rainy winter here in the south. I would never move north again. Nor visit it in the winter. I friggen hate winter, cold, ice and snow. You have to be prepaired for weather. Dogs were not made to live in houses. I have a dog inside every now and then but not all the time. Lap dogs are for city folk and for the life of me I can't figure out why we have so many city folk when they just end up in homeless shelters or victoms of crime. They can't survive with out grocery stores, running water or electricity. Why I hear tail they can't even skin their own kills, know how to run a still, find water with two sticks, or even make it in the forest with out being eaten alive by skeeters. Ain't that some shit. :eek:
     
  4. Attila

    Attila Guest

    Thanks. I love you! You made my day better. I was sort of depressed and feeling crappy till this message. [​IMG]


    Thunderhead,

    You know that these dogs got their start over in Ireland eh? It gets damn cold there in the winters you know. Now I am sure they had a warm spot in the barn or maybe in the house next to the kettle pot. But not always in the house or near the heat. Maybe in some hay or straw. Unlike humans dogs, cows, horses can handle the weather. With in limitations of course. Now a Wolf has a muti layered coat more adapt for extremes. You have to know the limitations of animals. That is part of being responsible. Now it would take a real jack ass to think a short haired dog could sleep on the growned wet in freezing weather. Also the same in very hot weather. They need shelter not heating and air conditioners. We don't even need that crap. I lived many years rolled in a blanket on the ground in the weather during combat, police actions and training. No the Special Forces, Infantry and other combat related job duties do not have heating and air. Most times we never saw a dang tent or had time to pitch one if we did have one. Believe it or not we didn't die from exposure. I am thinkin you have become too reliant on your luxuries. My dogs and I have spent many a night curled up together in camp during long hunts. Key elements to survival in winter. Stay dry, stay hydrated, and keep your body clean. In the summer it is best to do the same but also keep poisonous things away from camp. Many young soldiers that either came from cities or leg units learn the hard way to survival in the elements. Getting bit by some thing or things, frost bite, trench foot and so on. Ignorance was the common factor. They didn't know any better. It was the job of some NCO like me to tell them what to do and how to do it. I may have been annoying to them but I made sure they were taken care of like my own little children. They other than my dogs were and are the only children I ever had. You know that the native Americans had dogs too. Not much for heat and air back then. That is what a blanket is for. Also what staw is for. Shelter. Dogs once dug pits or burroughs for dens just like the wolf, coyote and fox. Cool in the summer and warmer in the winter. Insulated dog houses are great. They must have a shelter and it must be dry and clean. That is our job to tend to. Sleeping on the couch isn't always an option. No matter what people tend to think pets are not people. And some people are sissies.
     
  5. Bluedawg

    Bluedawg Pup

    That is the best post I have seen for owning multiple dogs outside of pro sled dog teams.

    Can you copy and paste that across over at Chaz? Lot of horse owners/lovers over there. I lived/worked on a horse farm for a short time that fox hunts where a regular occurence.
     
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  6. Bluedawg

    Bluedawg Pup

    If you want to see many of the areas that are the reason I call Alaska home, you need to be prepared and need to listen to what I say and do what I tell you. There are as many ways to die in any wilderness area as there is in a combat zone, I know one for a fact and the other I got a discharge before learning the truth.
    The APBT had its origins in Ireland? I did not know that and with as much Irish blood as I have I will have to research that as my dad researches our family tree.
    They may not be people, if somebody tried to harm them I would defend them as I would any member of my family. Even as much as my family that just pisses me off, I would still defend them.
     
  7. LuvinBullies

    LuvinBullies CH Dog

    Hee hee hee! :D

    Thanks for the acknowledgement, I appreciate it...however I can fairly accurately predict how that will go...especially since I have been formally "warned" over there not to bring any more info from posts on game-dog to Chaz. Permission to crosspost, by all means. Feel free to post your own name, as my own isn't deemed "credible" over there because I am an "obsessed game-dog member" according to the person who issued me said warning. :rolleyes:
    Enough of that drivel...Thanks again for the acknowledgement, and if you wish to try your hand in successfully delivering the info you certainly have my permission to do so...
     
  8. Attila

    Attila Guest

    I would kill for my dogs too. Probably quicker for them than my family. I love all my dogs that is for sure.

    I grew up around the hazards you speak of. Even been out in bear country. Polar Bears, Grizzly bears, Moose, wolverines etc. I am from the wilderness dude. Never lived in cities. You ever go to Trapper Creek? Got a buddy that lives near there but out in the marshy area. Ya I have been 45 miles out on a six wheeler in the soup. Should be frozen about now eh. Every place has its natural hazards. Tigers in the orient, Napal and India. Lions and other beast in Africa. and don't get me started on them damn snakes. At least you can hear a bear or moose. You have to smell a snake. And scorpions well you must feel them some times. I did winter survival training up in alaska too. It is nice in the summer but the other 10 months suck. lol Or is it like Northern Michigan where I grew up. Got winter and june, july and august your four seasons. Ya. I don't like bear, don't like cats, snakes and bugs. But I can and have dealt with them in t he past effectively. Maybe not the way animal rights dorks would like but I kill them all the same. When I visit your state I bring my 45/70 and my 45 colt long. Rifle and pistol respectively. And I do bring dogs. I like black bear with potatoes and gravey. But I don't have any use for those white ones or the big brown ugly somebitches. If you travel quite a few hours north of Anchorage there is a Army base. A hell hole that I see now damn use for but supposed to be part of that cold war shit back from the watching russia days when I joined the Army. I hate that place and would never go there again for nothing. I don't mind the Marsh lands and the mountains but that frozen crap isn't for me. I never did like winter or cold. And I know it isn't above 70 there right now. When you get below that I want to come back to Arkansas and hide in my house. I would rather be in a sandy desert than in the ice desert any day.

    I can survive your area. I just don't like it. I know that you probably do and I respect that. You would probably hate dealing with cotton mouths, rattle snakes, water moccasins, puff aders, copper heads and what ever I may have foggoten And we have scorpians here too. lol I tend not to worry on them too much. Black bear, coyotes, panther and the occasional mountain lion. Although I speculate the panther is just a variation of the cougar or mountian lion. They all are about the same to me. Big ugly cats that need to die. Just like walking on half crusted marsh you have to watch out for half crusted mudd pits here. You're stuck wet and pissed either way. And it will wear you out.

    I like studying the Irish, Scotts and other tribes of the north. Even though I am a Magyar I like the other tribes too. I could care less about the English though or the Romans. Be proud of what you are they are a good race of people. Be blessed. I know that Alaska has some beautiful spots I have seen some. It just gets too darn cold there for me.
     
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  9. Bluedawg

    Bluedawg Pup

    Thank you, and I will try next time it comes up in that thread or any other. I havent been around horses for many years, even if I had been I probably still wouldnt have made that connection.
     
  10. Bluedawg

    Bluedawg Pup

    They're many in my family I would put my dogs ahead of.
    I was born and raised in Anchorage, now I live just north of Wasilla. Ive been to Trapper Creek a few times just never during the winter. During the summer I raft on a few of the Mat-Su valleys rivers, even the slow ones can kill you if you arent carefull. Im currently building my Jeep to visit places I cant get to with my raft and with my discharge my hiking/climbing days are done.
    Pretty close to MI for south central AK. We have Winter, Breakup, and Road Construction. Bear sometimes you smell them before you hear them in areas where humans like to go.
    In my younger days I used to do allot of backcountry climbing, camping and sking during the winter months. I dont do those anymore but they made growing up here worthwhile. I have family in the Great Lakes area as well as NC, places I prefer to visit during the winter months.
    Ill have to get my dad to send me some of his research.
    It gets cold here but is no less beautifull when its frozen. I warm up easier then I get cold.

    Having a yard of dogs here isnt possible with breeds not bred for cold climates.
     
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