Is America and our APBT's in trouble, too?

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If Britain Can Negate the Magna Carta, the Document on Which the U.S. Constitution is Based, America is in A Lot of Trouble!



We were going to ignore what’s going on in the U.K. right now with the press crying out for bully blood after the recent death of a little girl supposedly as a result of an attack by a bully breed, because we have enough going on here in the U.S., but that is an isolationist viewpoint and since much of the breed-specific legislation (BSL) and mandatory spay/neuter (MSN) legislation was an idea “imported” from other countries we ought to have known better. Well, shame on us.


A little girl, Ellie Lawrenson, was killed on New Year’s Day in Britain, supposedly by a “terrier of the pit bull type” even though “pit bull” terriers have been strictured and effectively banned in most of the U.K. by the Dangerous Dog Act of 1991 which I think everyone in the U.K. would agree was a poorly-written law with vague terms like “pit bull” which isn’t even a breed. Imagine our lack of surprise to find that underground dog fighting and fighting dogs don’t go away just because they’re banned. Worse are the lies that are being told in the U.K. press right now. Like this article in which a Briton had her dog confiscated for being a “pit bull” terrier, the breed of which was supposedly confirmed by measuring the dog’s jaw among other things. Yes, because the measurement of a dog’s jaw is “evidence”! Worse, as a result of this supposed “pit bull” attack resulting in the death of Lawrenson, authorities claim that they are DNA testing the dog responsible to confirm it is a “pit bull terrier” even though DNA testing at this time on a dog only proves heredity not breed type. Incidentally, Hank Greenwood of the ADBA just wrote me last week and told me that DNA testing for breed was not possible, even though I had quoted the CDC as maintaining that DNA testing for breed was possible. Greenwood noted of the CDC,

“They are incorrect. We work with a DNA laboratory for our DNA profiling and they have confirmed [that DNA testing for breed is impossible]…If DNA could be used for breed verification, it would have been widely used, as the cost for a DNA profile is only $50.00.”

Indeed, the president of the National Dog Warden Association in England concurs with Greenwood stating:

“…it is even suggested that post-mortem [breed] is proven by ‘tests’ (implying DNA tests) despite the fact that no such test has previously been available to decide court cases?”

So if you’ve caught the authorities in one lie, is it such a stretch to believe they are telling others? The lies in the media and from “authorities” are so rampant that we’ve adopted the policy here at NPBB.com that unless a photo is shown of the attacking dog we simply won’t believe one way or the other that a bully breed was responsible for an attack or fatality. We’ve caught too many newspapers lying about the breed of dog supposedly responsible for attacks to believe the media anymore.

And as a result the police in Merseyside, where Lawrenson was killed, and police in Northern Ireland are offering an amnesty program wherein citizens can turn in their bullies or suspected bullies without fear of prosecution. This forces innocent people to give up perfectly good dogs (but then so too does a breed ban) since as the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals shows us just from the photo on the front of their website, even “authorities” can’t tell the difference between a “pit bull terrier” and an American Bulldog. So how is anyone else supposed to know? And as this article shows, it puts the public off adopting dogs from shelters.

Worse, the incident in Merseyside has the RSPCA pushing for neighbors to spy and report on neighbors with much success. While we should note that we’re of course not opposed to the reporting of dog fighting rings, we don’t like the precedent that is set wherein it is somehow ok to turn average citizens into voyeurs resulting in a loss of privacy for all. Don’t you see that this is a tiny step away from promoting guardianship laws wherein average citizens or animal rights activists, for whatever reason, can surveil pet owners and confiscate pets to which “owners” no longer have any rights? That’s what guardianship laws do. They take away your property rights to your animals such that you don’t own your pets. You are simply their guardian. So if anyone wanted to take those pets away from you for whatever reason they could because your right to your property will have been negated. And once you no longer have a right to your property, it’s just a matter of time before you lose your rights to all your property.

 

Guardianship laws, which I’m guessing we’ll be seeing soon in the UK and consequently the U.S., will be the latest in a campaign by macro and micro government, and the animal rights groups that have millions of lobbying dollars in their coffers, to negate your rights. The following headlines from the U.K. should adequately tell the story of the witch hunt on bullies that has gone on in the last couple of weeks: “Could you be cuddling a killer?” “Devil dog amnesty” “Have you seen a pit bull?”
And as a result of the malicious crucifixion of bully breeds by the U.K. press here are just a few of the calls for further strictures and bans: “Death Sparks Dog Ban Call” “Why the law should bite back” “Dogs shouldn’t be near a child” “Law change urged after dog attack.”

And here’s an article that vilifies both the breeds and their owners: “If the dog is dangerous, the owner will be, too.” The reporter looks down his elitist nose at those owning bullies and likens them all to criminals. Such a sentiment reminds us of ridiculous notions like phrenology wherein psychologists in the 18th and 19th centuries thought they could determine a person’s predilection for criminal behavior by the shape of their skull (which is eerily similar to measuring a dog’s jaw to supposedly determine breed and therefore a supposed proclivity for viciousness don’t you think?). Is this “dogology” wherein a person’s propensity to break the law can supposedly be determined by the type of dog s/he owns? Well, as Hitler ought to have shown us, where there is public hysteria brought about by the lies of “authorities” and the media, there is factioning of one set of people from another set of people which only leads to the sub-set(s) being “eradicated” in one way or another. The Third Reich ought to have taught us just how very easy it is to intellectualize genocide.


Government worldwide has already seen the euthanization of millions of dogs and cats, why not switch to people right? After all the earth is overcrowded by several billion people. And if the world can swallow millions of animals being slaughtered, it can probably tolerate millions if not billions of people being slaughtered too. Would it surprise you to know that the same animal rights activists that are currently behind the worldwide movement to end domestic pet ownership via slaughter of innocent animals have said they’d like to euthanize handicapped babies as well? My point is, where there is such a wanton disregard for life, whether it’s the lives of animals or people, there will be genocide. Call it “humane” or “quality of life” or by any other word that makes genocide palatable, but it’s still slaughter.

And before there is genocide, there is always a progressive negation of the most basic civil rights: the right to life, liberty, and property. For instance, the existing ban on bully breeds in most of the U.K. is shown as useless and the U.K. wants more of its citizens’ rights?? This from the nation that birthed the modern concept of democracy through “the great charter” known as the Magna Carta!? And lest Americans forget, the Magna Carta was a document full of novel ideas like property rights, due process, and habeas corpus from which the civil liberties in our own U.S. Constitution are derived. Sickeningly the nation that birthed modern democracy seems to now be negating those freedoms by placing unfair strictures on its citizens’ property. Is it then only a matter of time until the U.S. sees the trickle down of severe rights negation from Britain just as surely as the U.S. derived its concept of freedom and civil liberty from Britain?



*Very special thanks to the BSL Workshop for all the U.K. articles!

 

Good read. I know how about we send our dog haters to the UK and we take their dog lovers over here and we can be happy again. Send the polititions over with them. Let them have all the cats too.

 

Fantastic post Suki , once again thank you.
I wanna move with my dog from this godforsaken country , as quickly as i can.I am nervously awaiting the new laws which are bound too come into place.I have gotta do something but im scared of drawing attention to my dog , that would be catastrophic for him.
Sorry didnt know how to cut down the quote above , new to this ! Ollly.

 

n/p!
I bug the crap out of a "certain member", due to my computer ignorance!...but I HOPE he knows how much I luv him and appreciate ALL his help!!! , always!
xo="Sir"!!!

and BEST of luck to you, olly=VERY happy to be living in america!

 

Do any of you guys or gals on here think it would ever come to a North American ban on APBT,s??? Just seems as it is spreading like a virus. Here in Canada we all no Ontario has the ban , but there is a ban in a county here in Nova Scotia also only a few hours from where I live.http://www.doglegislationcouncilcanada.org/zeus.html

There is no grandfather clause here . This case I beleive is still in the courts since 2005. Get this,, they also banned rotties a few years later but put a grandfather clause in for them, but still none for APBT,s.

 

Aceman: Your very question is what scares the CRAP out of me most! I've feared a north american ban, for sometime now, and PRAY it does not come to this.
..this is why I spend SO much time in this damn chair, on-line, (which, btw, is SERIOUSLY killing my waistline :eek: ) , to TRY to help ensure a ban of that magnitude will not occur.
damn, I sure hope not.

 

I hear you Suki. I,ve only been involved with APBT,s for about a year and all this crap upsets the sh*t out of me. I can only imagine how the people who have dedicated most of their lives to the breed must feel. From eveything I see on the news and read in the papers and on the internet makes it seem like the future is grim for our breed. I hope it is not so!!