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top bellon dogs

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by jdp204, Aug 20, 2008.

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  1. oldstylepits

    oldstylepits Pup

    Amazing dogs I always tell people they haven't seen game until they see some of this bloodline. The heart in these little dogs is unbelievable.
     
    oldstylepits, Aug 21, 2008
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  2. Caos

    Caos CH Dog

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    Caos, Aug 21, 2008
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  3. CrazyK9

    CrazyK9 Top Dog

    CrazyK9, Aug 21, 2008
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  4. Caos

    Caos CH Dog

    Caos, Aug 23, 2008
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  5. ebady23

    ebady23 Pup

    Finally some history on Bellon dogs I can never here enough about this line but can never fine anyone experienced on the line. With that being said, who do you think is the most influential dogs of this line past and present and why. Is Thomasa Negra off Thomas because there are two different peds of her online. What can you tell me about Moragas as I believe her to be one of the key dogs of this line. I know today Mocaco has to be one of if not the best producer from this line today the list of producers and champions off him are amazing to say the least. Here is a breeding I just did, I hope it took.

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=284263 and here is another my partner owns
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=291862 and here is a special female I own that hopefully will be worthy enough to breed back to my blackboy dog. This hopefully will create dogs that can perform and produce as this is similar to what created moragas (stu fowler on top of heavy Ch Reno). http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=284934 we'll see what happens

    P.S Bleedwater Kennels in Texas had and I believe still has the Mr grays blood which he crosses back into his Javaline stuff.
     
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    ebady23, Aug 23, 2008
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  6. Caos

    Caos CH Dog


    congrats.nice breed dogs you had there I like alot of that Maverick/Bellon nice and Macaco really produce good ones of that blood.
     
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    Caos, Aug 23, 2008
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  7. ebady23

    ebady23 Pup

    Thanks, my friend may be getting a son of Macaco here soon. I see why they made the stu fowler x eli jr cross...impressive. I love the young aries/bellon male we have here but he has a lot of growing to do. Here is an example of what Bleedwater had http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=226942 the heaviest zeke blood alive is through them. Here is an example of whats being done now using the tonka blood http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=276515
     
    ebady23, Aug 23, 2008
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  8. Caos

    Caos CH Dog

    that´s nice I don´t had any of Bellon here my buddy had a litter heavy Ch.Koatly who produce nice dogs too.
     
    Caos, Aug 23, 2008
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  9. oldstylepits

    oldstylepits Pup

    P.S Bleedwater Kennels in Texas had and I believe still has the Mr grays blood which he crosses back into his Javaline stuff.[/quote]



    He sure does have a couple. When Gray retired he sent Bleedwater a few dogs. I myself have the others and sperm stored on Huckleberry who was the original cross of Gray and Bleedwaters yards. Those crosses produced real nice dogs including the pups I mentioned earlier that killed each other at 7 or 8 weeks old.
     
    oldstylepits, Aug 26, 2008
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  10. ebady23

    ebady23 Pup

    I figured thats who you were referring to. I would love to get some history on the Bellon family from you. Ever thought of putting a book out. I really like the one I got from Bleedwater and my buddy has weenie dog now (some of if not the tightest zeke blood alive). I here he has some really good satin blood as well. Anyway if you could give more insight on some of the Bellopn dogs it would be appreciated. Here is a small list Moragas, Moragas II, Thomas, Thomasa Negra, Cocol, Baldy, Sinelicof, Soga, Escuder, Koatly...this will do for now :) . I can run up a phone bill discussing these animals.
     
    ebady23, Aug 27, 2008
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  11. oldstylepits

    oldstylepits Pup

    I have only seen Thomas and Thomasa on video I was real young then but on the videos they were amazing, Thomasa was unbelievable never seen another like her. Cocol wasn't that great he threw nothing but curs unless crossed with that old Tonka stuff. Soga I was only around when she was used as a brood dog but she threw some amazing pups that were blue. Baldy I raised on a bottle from 2 days old he was a cross of Bellons Bourkes and a little dog called Sonja (she was real line bred Tonka) she was only used for breeding because she was so inbred her back legs were a little messed up, couldn't hold up to conditioning. She always tried to eat her pups. Baldy and his littermates were real small, but at about 10 weeks they had to separated from each other because they were fighting. Baldy also won some ADBA conformation shows he was a beauty.
     
    oldstylepits, Aug 27, 2008
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  12. ebady23

    ebady23 Pup

    Attached Files:

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    ebady23, Aug 28, 2008
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  13. jdp204

    jdp204 Pup

    any pictures of these great animals oldstyle?
     
    jdp204, Aug 29, 2008
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  14. SFK

    SFK Top Dog

    SE TX is still the home of this blood.
     
    SFK, Oct 8, 2008
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  15. SFK

    SFK Top Dog

    SFK, Oct 8, 2008
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  16. Caos

    Caos CH Dog

    here some from Brazil

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=105889

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=112020

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=53716

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=156232

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=112019

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=171286

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=272647

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=159789

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=114512

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=184013
     
    Caos, Oct 8, 2008
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  17. SFK

    SFK Top Dog

    How did you grow up living with one of the founding members of the Bellon Club? Did you grow up in Mexico? The "Club" was in existence way before we set foot in the States. We had over 15 champions and 5 grand champions before we ever came to Texas. How in the world we managed to do that without the Tonka blood is a miracle in itself huh? When we came to Texas in our first show, Mayor (a pure Stu Fowler/Red Lady dog) lost in almost 4 hours. However we won on the same show with Anibal (another pure Stu Fowler/Red Lady dog) in 2:28. We lost to Gizmo in 2:10 with an Eli/Red Lady bred gyp named Farca. We also lost with a sister to Gr. Ch. Negra Thomasa named Axa.Everyone, and I mean everyone was lining up trying to get some of the Stu Fowler/Red Lady blood after that show. In fact Mr. Gray is the one that approached us later wanting to breed to Bourks. And that is how that relationship started. The cross managed to click and we got some good dogs out of that breeding.

    The Old Man
     
    SFK, Oct 8, 2008
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  18. SFK

    SFK Top Dog

    Then you need to find a Time Machine. Those days are long gone..... All information is provided for historical purposes only.....
     
    SFK, Oct 9, 2008
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  19. oldstylepits

    oldstylepits Pup



    The club was made up of 1 guy from mexico and three from texas. No doubt he had good dogs but was not known in the states, he couldn't speak english and the Gizmo match was his first in the U.S. Bellon became well known in U.S. and Canada after he got connected with the guys fromTexas and all four of those men had equal influence on the dogs that followed.
     
    oldstylepits, Oct 15, 2008
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  20. SFK

    SFK Top Dog

    The Bellon Club was three from Mexico to start with. Bellon was well known to dogmen, maybe not in the area where you are from. The Gizmo match was not his first in the U.S. He had previously competed with Joe T. , Kemmer, B. Hall, B. Wells. etc. But you are correct in stating that after he got connected with the guys from Texas, the four had equal influence on the dogs that followed "in that era". But as Bellon himself stated after he beat Miranda Club's seven time winner Tequila, "members come and go from the Bellon Club (Andrade a former member of the Club with was teamed up with Miranda at that time), but we keep on moving ahead".
     
    SFK, Oct 16, 2008
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