Need help from those who feed raw....

" Don't need a lot of veggies though, too much will give green shits."

Yep. It ain't pretty. LOL

 

actually wolfs shake out the stomach contents before they eat the stomach.

 

ok this is what i'm lacking the raw diet ..i'm trying to take this all in ...the dog is 1 year never ate raw chicken backs .schould i be afraid of chicken bones ,schould i chop them some what how much if fed twice a day each serving??????the dog does work regulary .. and is 45 pounds

 

Quality chicken backs should be the staple of a raw diet, in my opinion. I have never found anything so simple, cheap, and readily available (in the U.S) that makes a dog look and do better. All the thighs, legs and whatever else do not compare. How many you feed depends on where the dog lives (in or out), how much exercise, metabolsism, etc. I had forty pound bitch that ran fat on two a day, while another forty pound bitch a kennel away needed four two keep weight. It depends. The key is in keeping a close, honest eye on your dog and adjusting up and down accordingly. With one dog I fed three one day, two the next to keep proper. There are sites and tables that can help you bring it down to an exact science, and they are useful if your dog is in keep. However, for day to day living, start with two (depending on size/weight of back), watch ribs, coat, hips. Doesn't keep weight? Add another. Getting too fat, take away one every other day, cut a back in half. Keep a close eye and records until you get it right. Keep it simple. When you see the liver/whatever going on sale, buy it up/cut it up and put it in the freezer. A couple of times a week take off one back and substitute with the liver. When you see cheap fish, grab it. About to expire ground beef? Take it. Weather going to be colder this week? Add a back. You have a little leftover rice/vegetables (no onions/beans) from dinner? Go ahead, add a little fish/appropriate vegetable oil (no corn please) maybe your egg, give the dog. It isn't a crime. After all, this is how folks fed dogs long before purina dried out leftovers and put them in a bag at premium ("convenience") price for people. I like to add seaweed. It helps keep color and a little shine on the dogs, especially here with the long assed winters and low sunshine. Is it absolutely necessary? No. Visit the raw websites, take in the info, then relax and feed your dog. Some people make this thing so complicated I wonder if they are feeding dogs or planning royal dinner parties. Perhaps my approach is a little laid back and non-stress because I learned to feed raw not from a website but from watching a guy who raised some of the oldest, fittest, best looking, and soundest mastiffs I have ever seen feed his yard. He took a box of chicken walked along the kennels, threw three backs to that bitch, four to that dog, four to that stud, two to that pup...made a little "soup" out of greens, rice, and oil, a little vitamin powder (don't remember which kind) gave every dog a tin-cup full in its bowl, watched them eat, washed his hands and called it a day...feeding wise. When the trees had apples, he gave them some. When he had extras, he shared it among the old and the young. His studs were fertile, and his broods had tight teats after whelping. I doubt he ever weighed a damned thing. Good luck, use common sense, don't overdo or over-stress.

 

the above text is very helpfull but my main concern ,,how much do i have to worry about killing my dogs by feeding them chicken backs????????? i'm afraid that since that is new to them will they try and swollow to big fo pieces or if i chop it a little will that just encourage them not to chew it at all.... somebody else told me to give it to them frozen so they have to chew it good . please give me more info thanks

 

I don't give chicken necks yet maybe I will but for the mean time I feed chicken gizzards, chicken livers, chicken thighs, chicken legs, chicken wings and eggs and occasionally boiled carrot sticks. I do give la little less then a cup of soaked innova kibble mixed with the eggs or carrots.

When I first started to feed her raw I first will give her the soaked kibble and then I will give the raw portion for that particular meal. At first she would gobble down the kibble portion like a starving animal compared to when I used to feed her only dry kibble so I was worried if she could obtain bloat since she doesn't even chew it anymore assuming because it's soaked. Then when it came to the raw portion she at first took a normal approach carefully chewing/licking it taking her time to eat. By day maybe 4 of supplementing mostly raw she was devouring it after 2 or 3 bites! I was very iffy to that sight so I seeked for some advice from an expert raw feeder and they told me it is fine as long as they are not choking it will digest since they are small enough pieces to swallow whole (chicken legs & wings) but what I now do is I do give them to her slightly frozen so she can chew them a bit since it's good for her to chew on the bones. That has proven to work and I continue to do so without any problems. The only portion she will always chew much more carefully are chicken thighs since they are bigger and the dog knows it as well.

I don't believe you can kill a dog by giving to much chicken backs?:confused: but with gizzards and especially liver it is not recommended to feed everyday. I feed liver once maybe twice a week and gizzards about every 3-4 days.

 

again very good text i still can't even thinking of the sigh of the dog chokeing and dieing in front of me i'm just gonna get a nice cleaver and board and chop around 50 lbs of chicken put it in bagies and freeze them ..we'll see the new look of barak o'boyles at the may show ..thanks everyone

 

AGK, there is a Yahoo! group you may want to look into.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding

Ok, so first, I don't know the nutrional value of hamburger meat but I do know I personally wouldn't feed too much of it just because its ground. Stick to whole meats and bones.
http://www.rawfedcats.org/nogrinders.htm

Second, you need to take out the veggies, rice, yogurt, and bread then you need to add raw meaty bones. Just get bone-in chicken breasts instead. Chewing bones is very important in a raw diet. It helps work a dog's jaw and neck muscles, cleans their teeth, and slows down their eating, which not only lets them enjoy their food more but actually helps aid in digestion.

Lastly, I realize you can't expect others to do this but when you're feeding them, I would definitely give them some small, whole prey animals. It's as close to natural feeding as you can get. My dog loves eating whole animals, especially the heads for some reason, lol!