how do you know when it's time?

Well what you are talkin about i think you should get a beagle or somthin. I


m goin through the same thing except ive had pits in the past an even though i dont hunt[i plain on hog huntin with the next apbt i get] with them or breed or anything like that, but i..

work: them flirt pole,tuga-war, ruff play,runnin next to bike,dragin bricks,and walkin and i did it every day.Only reason im on this thing is because i aint got no pit in the yard rite now.

YA FEEL ME APBT ARE TIME N LOVE

 

not trying to be mean or an ass or anything like that but reading that has got me a little pissed off... i just may have a little more confidence in this guy or in these dogs than you do i guess. im a strong believer these dogs can do whatever task you want... and being a nice family house pet can easily be one of them. as long as he is set up for it and has the time for it they are some of the best house dogs. if he gets a pup and works with it he'll be suprised at how limitless these dogs are. i know a lot of people get these dogs that shouldnt have them but this guy is actually doing research before hand. he's not saying "im looking for a shovelhead red nose" or some crap like that. a lot of you guys are selling out these dogs saying "your better suited to get this.." i guess im disappointed in a lot of you, we should be advocates for these dogs, instead saying try a different breed why not try and give him a little knowledge on how to keep them and what to expect. i know i keep one for a house dog and wouldnt have anything else for a house dog/companion/do whatever i want dog.

ok im off my soap box now.

 

most of the new folks interested in this breed couldn't be bothered to learn about let alone spend the time to train like the average pitbull owner does. they don't know the risks of owning a dog like this, and if he is suited to care for these dogs accordingly......i guess you could say it there was of felling this guy out.. with the other comments

 

don't get me wrong. i am in no rush. i know i still need to learn more. i am sure none of you know all either but you have much more experience than i do. that is why i am asking for your tips! don't worry about my feelings. they can't be hurt!!

 

my tip is....go adopt!

 

I am advocating for the breed by asking him to rethink the kind of dog he wants for a house pet! I didn't advise him to get anything or tell him what was suitable for him, I just asked him if he thought there was a breed more suitable to be a house pet! You can be a little pissed off, it aint my job to make folks happy Lol

 

Lwg why adopt a misbred apbt? Are you insane? No offence.
Ever had an adopted dog that had been abused. All is good until the kid claps their hands, closes a door, picks up a shoe.....
The man/woman said they were looking for a pet to be great with his family, old and young. Not an unpredictable deathtrap for his kids.. Not saying there isn't good fosters, but I wouldn't recommend any apbt to a novice especially not a mongrel one.

I have 2 recommendations for the op. If you don't know how a game bred apbt works and acts, then do a lot of reading. And BETTER THAN THAT ASK QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO SOMEONE THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. Like suggested, find you a mentor.

When you say we don't know everything but have more experience, you are correct. But our knowledge compared to yours on the breed is in a different category. Hopefully you will know what I mean before you get your dog. If you wait and learn, you will be Able to get you a piece of history, a true piece of work from a real dogman... If you don't learn you will end up with a dumb dog from an even dumber dude.

Learn, talk to people, learn about bloodlines and traits, learn about breaksticks! Make sure you know there is rules to being an apbt owner! Like no exceptions.... You don't set your dog up for failure. No dog parks etc.

If you become educated by the right people, I guarantee you the DOGMAN you get your dog from will be more than willing to teach you everything you need to know to keep the cull as a housepet. DOGMEN are better with dogs than any of these bybs or show breeders.
no matter what you do, if you are willing to put the work into learning about the breed and their needs, and actually get the infotmation from the horses mouth, you might find the APBT is not for you.

You can learn how to drive a lambo driving 400mph, but are you ready to drive that lambo 24/7 for the next 15 years? At full speed? If not you may want a well bred amstaff.

Like previously said, put your work in and go game dog. You won't be disappointed. But you must be willing....

 

Game bread dogs???? - Pit Bull Forums
Just found this... Might be a useful read.

 

ok maybe i didn't offer enough info on myself. i have research the types of dogs that i would like to get in the future. the APBT was my final choice. i have searched and read many old threads here. most on here says on the old thread to learn all you can then obtain your dog from a REPUTABLE breeder. so the pound is a negative. it's been a year of reading old threads and books. so much so that my wife thinks im insane and gets jealous. i guess my next thing is to go to some shows and talk to some people. whats after that? finally the hands on?

 

This isn't like buying a car. You don't just check the mpg and count the seats and find out maintainence costs. This dog is a fighting dog that has been bred to do so for over 100 years. If you want a game dog you have to learn from a real dogman, find a mentor! If you don't want a FIGHTING DOG THAT IS BRED FIRST TO FIGHT, SECOND TO HANDLE, than like I said, an am bully or better yet, a boxer or something. You sound like you just want a bulldog? If thatt is the case you should go buy a goldfish. Penis extensions are sold on TV, I think its called extenZe? BULLDOGS ARE BULLDOGS, PIT DOGS ARE PIT DOGS. You don't buy a lion and keep it in a house and feed it vegetables. The same goes for your PIT DOG. Refer to buck e ownes post on the first page. Ask your self those questions. Your position seems ovbious, you aren't in it for a ggame dog, get a cur.

A reputable breeder (apbt) that is not a game breeder isnnt reputable at all.. They aren't breeding the true apbt, rather just a shell. I'm not saying you won't find the right information from people at shows, some may know game dogs, but that might not be the place to look unless you want info from a lot of show(shell)dogs and show(shell) breeders there...

Outt

 

What do you want to do with the dog, what are your goals, questions like this need to be raised and answered before you buy a game bred animal.

You want a house dog, i'm pretty sure there are better suited dogs for this role out there! There are litterally 500 other pure bred dogs that are not bred to be high strung and animal aggressive.

To the guy who said i'm not advocating the breed by steering people away, the shelters themselves are proof of what happens when pitbulls become house pets. I'm not saying i'm not guilty of keeping one in the house while having a yard full in the back... but if everybody and there mom owned a game bred animal there would be alot of chaos in the streets as people cant even take care of a chihuahua! Its about 34923434934 stray dogs in the neighborhood im in right now, what would it be like if these were game bred dogs?? Lol It would be chaosss. it would be on the news and nancy grace for months.

If you want a APBT, and are responsible.. maybe u want to get into weight pull, comformation shows, or other activities. That's cool. I can't knock you! I personally would not select a game bred bulldog as a house pet though. I would personally prefer a calmer dog, who is animal friendly by nature, and won't destroy a bunch of shit in the house. That's all.

 

If you do decide to follow through with it, make sure you're prepared in all catagories. Kennel outside or something where the dog can be contained, crate for indoors, breaking stick is a must, lots of socialization, and never forget what is on the other end of the leash. I look at it like and use the anology of I wouldn't let my wolf run loose with my neighbors sheep!

Also, plenty of exercise. that dog will destroy everything and anything when not supervised for even a minute if he's not properly exercised. and this can lead to your dogs death!

im speaking from experience cuz ive had a bulldog and an American bulldog eventually die from eating something they werent suppose to! irresponsible on my part.

 

@nah. lol if i wanted a cock extension, i wouldn't be asking about a dog! let me ask you this. (ASSUMING YOU HAVE APBTS) why do you get to keep them. what do you use them for? what and how are you contributing to the game dogs? if they were bred for fighting then your words must imply something. just because my future dog would be a house dog used to chase squirrels, doesn't mean it can't be a game dog. I know there are other breeds bred specifically for squirrels but they don't appeal to me. and yes i know a dog is until death do us part! if you hog hunt then all you need is a cur too. the ONLY TRUE way to test a dog is illegal here. so are you also implying all your dogs are curs? please don't be offended. just curious

@venom yes of course. i have been reading and studying. shit will happen but i will try my best. yes i know drivey dogs need to be exhausted to be happy and calm!

 

Please keep the derogatory remarks and innuendos at a minimum. Accusations are not welcome here. This a thread for discussion and will continue to remain as such.

 

look, i wish alot of you would leave out the GAME BRED, or GAME DOG part as a large percentage here wouldn't really know one from a poodle.
the question was about acquiring your first American Pit Bull Terrier.

looking up history on the breed is good for an understanding of what the breed has been developed and used for over the years. visiting forums offers some good advise on bloodlines/what to do's and what not to do's, but also offer's alot of inexperianced and sometimes bad advise also.
keep asking questions, express your own ideals and keep an open but some what sceptical mind. attend some lots of shows, not just a few. get to know these people, if they're good people, they will help you in anyway needed. get to know these dogs through the people you associate with, if you have done your research, you should know the one's to stay away from. ie; those that want to sell you a pup, or those they state they have the best line's etc. you'll know
if you play your cards right, and you are genuine and honest in your ways, the right people will help you, the others will fade in the distance. you need to spend some hands on time with some of these good people and thier dogs, just to get to know the dogs. not just one, a number of different dogs, they're all different in thier own unique way.

while all this is going on, you need to be thinking about what exactally you are looking for in a dog. now i mean, honestly. it has to be a dead set certanty. what goals do you wish to achieve, be it showing a dog, hunting with him, or is it just a companion thing. the only way this thing will work out for you, is if you are 100% honest and are willing to put in 100% of your time.
these dogs are not the type of dog to be left in the backyard and throw'n thier food to em. even a companion dog needs some kind of work, not only to keep his body healthy, but also his mind. remembering how these dogs have come about, should tell you, they are from working dogs, not lap dogs. still, even in the case of acquiring a dog from a none working home, or pet stock, many of these dogs will still develope the want to fight another dog, or at the very low end of the scale will have the desire to ruff play another. very few are big ol' mellow bulldogs, but they are out there. your chances of this are slim, so never count on it.

you need to re-think everthing you knew about housing a dog, yard space, weather it be a back yard in suberbia or accerage in the country.
fencing the perimatre and also chaining the dog or the use of a kennel run.. it is a good idea, if you are chaining a dog to also use a surrounding fence. there are many ways to contain a dog and the use of one or more is worth it. while on the subject, cost of setting all this up will cross your mind:rolleyes: to me, even though im not what most would call well off lol, cost is second to none where my dogs are concerned. they will cost you, only peddlers make money from the dogs, and anyone that tell you different is a flat out liar or a peddler lol.
all these things need attending to before the purchase of a dog. housing/feed, everthing youll need has to be there ready before you finally get your dog.
in the mean time while consulting and hopefully making some good friends, which is also a great bonus with these dogs, you will have saught out a few good people who will pass onto you a well bred pup. these people should, undoubtedly work with you and be there for you as you raise your new dog, in the case of a pup.
people may suggest an older dog. yes, in some cases this can work out well, but id like to think you are a responsible person with commen sence, so in that case, with the right support raising one from a pup will not only be a learning curb, but a well awarded experiance. i do really feel that people need experiance before taking on an older dog, as much as i feel there are a large number of good old dogs out there that need a welcoming home.:dogdrink:
it sound to me like you are, or atleast id like to think you are taking it steady and using your head before you jump
don't let me down and tell us you purchased a pup next week, cause ive almost abandoned the idea there are any sensible people out there anymore.
good luck to you.......B.

 

if you think you ready, get in there and get one if you've thought of all the responsibilities of owning a dog like the APBT, and feel your ready, start looking in to reputable breeders.

 

ladies and gentlemen if the OP has spent a year researching about the damn dogs i would say its time for hands on experience get your damn yard set up to properly care for one and find u a good breeder and get u a damn dog u people act as if you are the only ones that should own this breed and i bet half of u do not even need to own the dogs yourselves this guy seems responsible if u raise one of these types from a pup and know what they are capable as they age and are prepared for it go ahead just as long as u know in your heart that u can care for this dog the way it should be cared for is all that matters if not then dont bother plain and simple

 

I don't think it the fact we think we should only own these dogs,

how many posters never seen or known or even me, ask about this breed??, and get the cold shoulder for how they go about it!!!! , how can you say they are a good owner of this breed?????????

you just make a rough guess of character, there sense of responsibility, and and last but not least do they got commonsense.........????

you gunna sell some one a dog you know nothing about........I know i wouldn't if i sold one..... you better prove you'd be a good owner first, to me anyway if i was to part with one........:cool:

anyway when he's read up on them, he will find a breeder suited to what you want,

there are a lot of people that have great pets on here as well,
as for the shelter i would get one from there, but under his circumstances he can't (for potential safety, and untrustworthy issue from unpredictable animals that have had shit lives....)


Regardless what anyone thinks he's gonna get what he wants ....I know i would....:cool:

I just think owning a APBT, to get squirrels is exactly what his neighborhood needs to see!!!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


that is why i said patterdale terrier might be better, then its cute the squirrel killin' (in the publics eyes anyway, but a APBT, AC's on the way!:mad

 

AGAIN IT DEPENDS ON YOUR LOCATION (if you are to use a dog for that purpose) but hey WHAT WOULD YOU THINK IF YO SAW A DOG YOU BRED, ON THE NEWS IN A SCHOOL YARD KILLING SQUIRRELS, LOOSE CAUSE OF AN IMPROPER SET UP? OR BAD OWNER????

I THINK I WOULD OF ASK A FEW MORE QUESTIONS TOO!! NO?

So this would never happen, with my name attached to the mishap anyway!!!

accidents happen, it about what you can foresee coming!!!

 

LOL u said it there buck he gonna do what he gonna do regardless what we say anyway and a patterdale shit i wouldnt mind owning one of them lil things either they some fiesty mofos but i do see where u all coming from but this man has to start somewhere and he might as well go on and get a pup or just find a breeder close to him and talk with them and let the breeder feel him out i find it easier to help someone as to say no go get another breed but anyway no sweat off my nose either way