Blue dogs ???

Bull-dog looks like an American staffordshire terrier do you know how the dog is bred?

 

I have seen a blue dog come from a red/rednose & a gold brindle.And she had one of that color in both of her litters.Not sure were it came from since I was the breeder for 4 gens but it showed up. Plus the male I kept was a hell of a dog & one of the smartest I have had.No staff blood in them!

 

LOL another turd got flushed

 

The color's you are seeing are super diluted which come from breeding blue on blue too much sometimes even red so much that even the noses loose pigment.Line breeding already dilute colors in the first place and breeder's who know what they are doing do not breed blue on blue for generations they cross in dark colors such as black, brindle, ect. breeder's who breed for color are just ignoring the importance of pigment. Those colors are less desirable IMO because they come from bad breeding practices and lead to skin and health problems. The color champagne and term lilac only popped up in the last decade with our breed, when people started overbreeding blues, and then crossing in rednose too.

 

Actually, lilac/lavender/champagne/Isabella/blue fawn/whatever the hell you want to call it is dilute chocolate. Both genes are receive (black being dominant over chocolate, non-dilute being dominant over dilute) so its more "rare" than blue. That being said, its no sunrise BYBs are trying to make money off them since they've bred blues to the point that they are no longer uncommon. They need a new rarity to cash in on.

 

Lilac Color Explained
This color is a variation of "d" genes that dilute black to blue, and in this case Lilac. Most times it is in combination with the "b" gene. Because Lilac colored dogs carry a double dose of "d" they are true dilutes. Lilac color is noticeably different than your typical blue. The coat will have a chocolate/brownish tint in combination with blue. Lilac dogs are born this color unlike blue fawn pups who typically lose the blue overtones of their coat as they mature, keep their lilac color. Lilac dogs have a self-colored nose that has the look of light (lavender) or dark (purple). It is a lighter/more washed out color than a blue dog's nose just as the coat color is.
NOTE: when these dogs are color DNA'd, you will see the double dose combination of dilute "dd" AND most of the time at least one little "b", sometimes two. In rare cases there is no little b present. Lilac ALWAYS carries two little d's (dd) and either none, one, or two little b's. Note: there are 4 different shades of Lilac from light to darker.

Blue Gene Explained
What most people call the "Blue Gene" is actually a "Dilute Gene". This means that the gene Dilutes the original color. Blue dogs are no more than a black dog that has been diluted in color. If you imagine mixing a little bit of white paint into black paint, you will get a dark charcoal color. Mix a little more white & get the nice slate gray color that most people refer to as blue. In the Scientific Color Spectrum this dilution can have hundreds of different shades from the "dark charcoal" to "white" with a blue base. Yes, there is such a thing a a Blue White dog commonly referred to as a "Platinum". This is also how we get the Lilac color.

Blue Tri

Diluted Black-
Blue & White with the Tan Pointed Pattern. This is the True Slate Gray Color that should be designated BLUE. The nose, eyeliner, and pads should be self colored(color of the hair). The eyes are often light gold, green, blue, or gray. According to geneticists, the charcoal color is genetically blue as well, and is discernable when the dog is against anything True Black or a black dog. The charcoal color also shines through when in the sun and is typically has a darker streak down the back.

Lilac- Tri

Lilac & White with the Tan Pointed Pattern. This is a True Lilac Color that should be evident. The nose, eyeliner, and pads should be self colored(color of the Lilac hair). The nose leather can be light or dark purple, not gray blue as in most blue dogs, yet not brown as in chocos. The eyes are often light gold, green, blue, or gray. According to geneticists, the Lilac color is genetically blue as well, and is discernable by the Purple Hue of the hair. The Lilac color also shines through when in the sun. In this photo, you can see the difference between the Lilac hair & the tan points. Some would say that this is no more than a chocolate color, but as you can see in this photo, the Lilac hair is quite a different color than this pups chocolate Mom underneath him.

 

To my understanding when breeder's breed for that color they double up on the blue genes than cross in the red ... then you get the lilac color. I personally am not a fan of breeding blue on blue let alone breeding for double dilutes like lilac. Those colors come with health and skin problems no thanks I will pass. And I agree BYB's milk the hell out of those colors they ignore the importance of pigment to make a buck.

 

It is nothing more then a shade of black
















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My opinion when is this bully type of breed going to become its own breed?I dont think it should be called a APBT or a AmStaff!Why not call it American Bully and if the people who breed this type of dog ,when are you going to come up with some standards especially on size!I mean from what I see its about who is the biggest..Thats where all your unhealthy breeding habbits are taking shape and is why some are such poor specimans..people that truly love this breed and want it to stand on its own ..yall got to come together and come out of the shadows of the APBT and the AmStaffs...I see no reason with breed standard this breed couldnt stand on its own.

 

not trying to dig up these silly blue threads, but i saw a couple game-bred blue dogs earlier today. figured i'd post em up just in case anyone, for whatever reason, might be interested.



http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=329090

and here's the female they bred him to with the litter. not a huge fan of breeding blues to blues, but eh, whatever. their dogs. just figured i'd share my findings.



http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=353746

 

LJ you know game bred blues are fairy tales like unicorns and leprecauns. LOL

 

i don't give a crap about a blue dog. i just saw these and thought of this thread, figured i'd throw em up.

hell them pups could sprout wings and fly for all i care :-P

 

i know of a damn good bred eli hound that i guarantee if you seen work would change your mind on that one but they damn sure are not breeding her to blue studs to produce more colored offspring

 

I run alot of dogs off this line and they are some damn good dogs http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=79688 this is the tnt line started by stephanie tupin and gail condra. the foundation male turpins blu trouble is half amstaff and eli bred. Alot of people call it a blue staff line. These are blue dogs but they are not bullies. If you look at your history alot of the old dog men somtimes bred back into the ruffian line of amstaffs. Here is one of my females with this line in here ped. http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=306198

 

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=279537 Just kidding people, does she look like a bullie?

 

comes from mysteries bule pual in the 19th centuy look it up

 

No it's black with an under tone of red. Check out the A.D.B.A. if you want more info on colors.

 

it will take a dog 60-80lb pit to beat a kangal. people see blue and think it can't win. a good dog can be found within all bloodlines.

 

Blue is just a dilution of black the reason why most people don't like blues is not because there are no game blues but for the fact that its normally a flag

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http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...&dog_id=231848

rare but this was shown..........and overcame

YIS