does inbreeeding make dogs smaller?

ive noticed that alot of the heavy inbred/linebred dogs are smaller... is this part of the vigor that ppl talk about? Im just asking because it seems to me that outcrosses or when breed two dogs that maybe line bred or even in-bred but not like each other the pups seem bigger than the parents or am i just tripping??? :confused:

 

yes they do come out smaller and if you go to tight you lose some bone mass did this one and they are smaller and very well built ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [328175] :: A'S WERE COMING 4 U

 

Usually yes they tend to get smaller. And the # of pups in the litters get smaller too
at least my dogs anyways.
Hybrid vigor is when two different lines that has separate but locked in traits are mated. It's like an explosion of genes and they tend to be bigger, and a lot of times healthier than there parents.
Hopefully they get the best of both worlds from the two lines crossed!

 

Hmm...Makes sense

 

i dont agree bcuz when u inbreed u get crazy ass dogs and u get birth defects like less bone so they dont get smaller

 

i love that bolio stuff man!!!!

yea... thats the best i could equate vigor too... while looking at the peds of some mbrs and pics accompanying them i see that alot of the tighter dogs are smaller... here with the dog men we have more of a combine system (im in the city & you cant really house 6 dogs let alone 50) so the dogs may be the same blood but its almost a different family so to speak so when they mate dogs they tend to be 45-50lb dogs.... more like battle crosses i guess

 

Hi, Bullnuts!
You have correctly described in his message inbreeding depression and heterosis.
Tell me, how much weight the dog is meant by the smaller weight (in numbers, please)? And yet - write, medium and heavy weight for the APBT.
Best regards

 

my idea of small 20-35lb medium 35-50 big 55+... i like bigger medium sized dogs *laughing* 45-55 lbs c.w.

 

yep crazy ass defected dogs like
10xW

Half-brother, half-sister


9xW

Father, niece


8xW

Half-brother, half-sister


7xW

Intensely linebred Bolio


7xW

Intensely linebred Snowball


6xW

Mother, nephew


5xW

Mother, nephew


5xW

Triple-bred Bullyson and father/niece

 

that didnt even deserve a responce dp

 

nothin he post deserves a response

 

In the pedigree of the pup (age - 5 months): 32 x - STEVAN'S BLACK KING. Her weight at this time - 37.5 lbs.
http://www.gamedogped.com/details.php?id=54914&gens=9
Father (weight - 50.7 lbs): 24 x - STEVAN'S BLACK KING;
Mom (weight - 41.8 lbs): 8 x - STEVAN'S BLACK KING.

 

I member postin somethin similar to this...In my experiences over the years I'd have to say yes inbred/linebred dogs do tend to come out smaller....but I've also seen this go either way so I'd have to say it depends on a couple factors: the bloodline...the feed an care of the pups...an the owners which falls n with the las 1 but thats JMO. I say that cuz LB...if we get bulldogs from da same litter...on the same day...u feed raw/dry mix 5x's/day...while I feed str8 dry only 2-3x's/day....there will be a difference n the size an build of the 2. So I think inbreedin/linebreeding CAN produce smaller dogs but I don't think thats the only thing factoring in. again JMO

 

that question is entirely to general to possibly get a correct yes or no answer

 

but do you think you could have that big of a variance in the overall look of the dog if they're both properly being taken care... if with the feeding that you described my dogs coat my be shiner than yours and he may have more energy but do you think it could be lets say a 20lb difference between the two just off feed alone(we all know sometimes you may get an abnormally big dog or a small one that differs from your normal breeding program)

why is that Lee D?

 

i know its not an exact science but the more heavily inbred dogs ive seen have been smaller dogs... linebreeding is different to a degree i think because you can line breed then out cross with the same family and its still the same line of dogs 2 an extent (wrong or right?)

 

like how thats put together

 

I know first hand it does with mayday dogs....which isn't a bad thing cuz they tend to be big fuckers anyways

 

size of a dog does'nt depend on the feed unless their fat . it's all in the real old stock being smaller and now day they have these 60+ lbs dogs . people now days think it's normal to have a big dog . inbreeding you still have size if you don't try to breed for smaller dogs . linebreeding is the same .