This is the real deal

I don't know who you refer to as "Two Jokes" But really the jokes is on you Stratos. You claim to be an old school dogman and all this and that but Hell I can't tell. I see a guy who make stories up and say you never heard of Frisco just to make your self sound big I guess but the funny part is you ran to Tom and got yourself a double bred Dynomite pup lmao what a joke. I'm still waiting for an answer to "Why did you pick up the phone and call Tom for a double bred Dynomite pup in the first place"????? Hell if I don't trust a man nor like him i'm damn sure not going to be giving the man $900+ but funny thing is that exactly what you did.

 

The part I don't get is, who gives a shit.

 

Next time you call someone a joke, try not to get caught in lies about hangin shit on pedsonline, saying you don't like frisco dogs yet have seveeral frisco and frisco crossed dogs and lie about knowing dogmen to impress people online. You still didn't explain those peds that entered with the same dog but completely different breedings and sex. And why did you question before how you did not believe that walker was off dynomite now you are switching to questioning dynomites ped:confused: why even go and a dyno dog if you felt that way:confused: why get frisco dogs:confused:

 

See what i dont understand is that u seem to have some knowledge about dogs yet ur so far off with ur comments. Ive been around since 98 so your not talking to someone who Quotes what "my hero told me" i have no heros! and like most im no dick rider... I speek what i know and have seen(unlike most). Like i said if u dont know dont make shit up! I guess ur next explination will be that Tom Put makeup on frisco to make him look like rusty. PLease!!!! cut the bullshit. Was Otto a cottingham dog also? Because he worked like a machine along with many others. You say that the Dyno dogs are more intense than any Frisco dog! Well, mine all work and pull steady on the Track and are nothing like the old cottingham dogs. All my dogs off of frisco looked and performed the same. So what is ur explination for that? Maybe my eyes lied to me back then. The thing that pisses me off is that its crazy how an individual starts to play out the scenario in his mind and then starts to believe it. Lets just say i didnt now who yoko was bred to and i went with ur fantasy of a story< Answer me this.... Why is it that all the rusty bred dogs ive worked with look nor act the way my Frisco or Dynomite dogs do? Is my mind playing tricks on me? or am I a stupid retard who just doesnt know how to evaluate a dog. All my animals off of Frisco have always pulled the same on the weight pull track no matter what breeding they came down from.Who would know better? me who has owned many many Frisco dogs or u who has had experience with some. Like i said as long as they keep pulling large amounts of weight i dont care if Tom went back and threw some rusty jizz in Yoko after Frisco's dick fell out of her (since thats what ur trying to say happened) LOL!!! Who knows anything is possible! i dont put things past any man. But i would rather take my chances with what i know not what may have happened ! LOL LOL LOL! Again and again. U guys were there i just guess know one saw u hiding in the bushes. LOL! we will be attending many adba< apa, sdr events this year, i guess we will see how the Dyno dogs do in the show ring and the weight pull track. Thanks ! Thats all Folks!

 

No matter what bloodline they are you will have your top dogs and some that need to be culled out of every litter. All one can do is breed best to best and hope for the best, thats the difficult part, finding the best becasue there is no scale to use and no legal way to test.

There are hundreds of tales out there about dogs with unknow breedings being top dog, then dogs that curred out in the pit but produced like crazy. Unless you were there when the dog proved itself, Watched the mating,watched the litter hit the ground, then watched the pup raised and prove itself, you just don't know. The history is litered with stolen and found dogs. Stories were written by men just like the ones posting on this site whos opinions can't help but carry over into their writtings which unfortunately may have masked what really happened.

So today we are breeding the best names to the best names (In our honest opinions) but in real life a dogman with 80 dogs to his yard may have only had a few real good dogs, the Diamond in the rough mixed in with loads of shit, and any one of those pieces of shit may have produced!

So whats in a name? The dog doesn't know nor does he care.

 

That's true Luk the dog don't know nor care how he's bred but when you change the way a dog is bred because it looks better on paper like Stratos is doing then what kind of dog man is that? http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=offspring&dog_id=377384 Just take a look at this shit one ped he says "This would be better" and another says "I'm breeding him this way" ChDynomite already said what he had to say about the matter and all i'm saying is this If you want a Cottingham then get a dog that's presented as a Cottingham dog don't get a dog thats presented to you as a Frisco dog then go and call it a Cottingham dog.

 

It Has been said by TG himself that breeding Frisco to Lee Ling gave him some of the highest percentages and one of the better breedings he ever did with Frisco. With that being said Slim i'm not suprised that Dynomite shit is throwing high #'s Now I never seen snooty or Molly bee or nothing like that but i have seen enough Frisco/Frisco crosses to say there not all the same and from what I have seen i have to rank the Frisco/Fat Baby & Frisco/Lee Ling dogs the highest.

 

Ch dyno.....are you saying you seen the breeding? Cuz if u did then why worry about this bs.

 

I'm wondering Ch. Dyno about something. Do you think you were getting better dogs from the litters being closer to the source? I mean you were getting animals off breedings that weren't public and litter picks. People say pick of the litter doesn't matter but it does. Especially if you really know your line of dogs you'll know what to look for. I'm just wondering because I know and you know that you always sell the ones you don't pick. Also if you were taking your own females back to Frisco do you think they were better than the ones TG were advertising? I personally wouldn't care what how Dynomite was bred if I'm getting good dogs off of him every breeding but to each his own.

 

i know what to look for and i like to get pups off of litters where i was present for the breedings.

 

ur on the money with that Young Sense! Frisco/FatBaby And Frisco/ LeeLIng best %

 

One breeding to Frisco and u have the nerve to discredit a whole line. LOL! Maybe u had a poor producing female. Did u ever consider that?

 

You dont get it man , Gringo dont owe me shit , all his success goes to himself as he did it all his own, I give props to him for that.

Nobody here is Greener then me LMAO, as everyone here are certified game dog experts lol.

I aint here to straighten people out, if thats what you think lol, Im here for my enjoyment, entertainment, and a good laugh at other peoples expense especially people with 30 years experience lol.

 

I like this one

 

I dont see were u wrote that u breed to him 3 times. Also please post these so called dogs off of him that look like the old Cottingham dog. Lets see what u can produce as far as a true comparison.

 

Thanks, for all the input slim 12 & Ch. Dynomite seems ya'll know these Garner dogs pretty well.

For all the other entertainment I try to look over some people on here because there opinions irrelevant.

I AM GOING TO BREED 'MY" (WALKER) DOG AS I 1st SAID, AND IF THE DAM HAS THEM I WILL BE SATIFIED WITH MY DECISION.

SO HER IT IS AGAIN:

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=172202

 

Still waitin for you to explain this shit, those weird peds and why you are tryin out el negro dogs when you questioned el negro's production