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new canine influenza ??

Discussion in 'Health & Nutrition' started by Verderben, Sep 18, 2005.

  1. Verderben

    Verderben CH Dog

    This is UNVERIFIED info but it came to me from a trusted source so here it is for what it's worth



    The New Canine Influenza, Greyhound Disease, Race Flu, Equine Influenza, Avian Flu

    The New Canine Flu, which has killed so many greyhounds is now in the domestic dog population. There is no treatment and no vaccine. It has jumped species, (by feeding greyhounds raw horse meat, which was infected with horse influenza), (horse influenza is avian flu, which jumped species from birds (avian flu), to horses(horse influenza). The avian flu has now moved to racing greyhounds and domestic dogs and the indications are that there may be a potential problem for humans. It is deadly and it is on the loose. It may just be a matter of time. The CDC is watching the disease.


    There is no central tracking agency with report and stat capability for dogs that will get the word out to all vets in the US.


    http://www.recombinomics.com/News/05130505/H3N8_Domestic_Dogs_United_States.html


    The domestic dog population is at present risk.

    This week on my net groups I saw many anecdotal accounts of $100,000 show dogs dying while packed in ice and hooked up to IVs, with high temps. No one knows what is wrong with these dogs and the vets do not know what they are treating. I think it is Greyhound Influenza or Race Flu.

    Show populations are now infected and the majority of veterinarians have never heard of the disease. Isolated individuals know this but the country as a whole does not. A few days after exposure at dog shows, dogs are traveling back to their home states and infecting the local populations. Many dogs are dying needlessly. It is not kennel cough.

    The period of incubation is 2-5 days. It is airborne, can be transmitted by inanimate objects, and clothing. Virtually all exposed will contract. The morbidity is 80% with 20% being sub clinically affected and shedding the virus. The course of the disease is four weeks. There are two forms, milder and very extreme. Two weeks into the viral disease the dog looks like he is getting over the cough and then bacterial infections become an acute problem. Oft times the owner has reported the dog is well, only to find that a short time later an acute bacterial infection has taken over the dog, in a matter of hours. The owners think the disease has run its course only to learn it hasn't gotten started yet, so dogs are dying needlessly.

    My vet thinks earlier rather than later treatment with broad spectrum antibiotics are the best way to treat the disease. With proper vet care perhaps there will only be a mortality of 1-5%.

    The information needs to go out so that all vets will know this is not kennel cough, so they will not VAX for kennel cough while ill, and so they can monitor beyond the two week period.

    It has been almost impossible for me to understand how in the last four days i have contacted state vets who have never heard of the new influenza, all the while, the people with the info on the disease, refuse to release it nationally.

    The AVMA has info that will go out next month. How many will die prior to that? I have begged and cajoled them to do this, so perhaps we are making some headway, however, we need info to go out ASAP.

    APHIS says it is not their job.

    The people who are handling research on the initial outbreak in <st1>FLA.</st1>, are contacting local, (<st1><st1>FLA</st1></st1>) BUT not national sources to disseminate information.

    Below is a link to a photo album in which i placed the FLA Veterinary Alert and Advisory, which was put out by the FLA VET MED ASSOC., at the request of the State Vet. It is not on the state website.

    http://photobucket.com/albums/y249/citycolumbus/
     
  2. Verderben

    Verderben CH Dog

    In my conversations with the researchers at the <st1><st1>U.</st1> of <st1>FLA.</st1></st1> I was told, by the lead researcher, who owns greyhounds, that they have no responsibility to provide this info to other states or to other vets. (BTW, Is some of the research funded by the gaming organizations?) (My state,GA., the state of <st1><st1>FLA.</st1></st1>, and three highly placed individuals at Pfizer, told me to call the researcher.) The researcher said to me that cultures do not need to be done on potential affecteds, and she denied that the illness is from horses, though she is quoted in articles as applauding the Cornell researcher who identified it as horse influenza. The FLA state vet said:"We know it came from horses."

    The researcher is working to do a contracted vaccine with " a company." She is working on a paper. She did not want to discuss the influenza though her name, email and number appears as the contact source on the state of FLA Veterinary Alert and Advisory that went out to all FLA vets. I was told by some at Pfizer that Pfizer is not the company who is helping her develop the vaccine.

    The researcher said the FLA VETERINARY ALERT AND ADVISORY should not be put on the net. However the FLA state Vet, Dr. Thomas Holt, told me, on Fri., Sept 16, 2005 to put it on the net..."Feel free to use it."<o></o>

    AGAIN< I have spoken to state vets who do not know anything at all about this illness even though the state of <st1>FLA.</st1> put out memos on the influenza in August 05 in the state of <st1><st1>FLA.</st1></st1>, without notifying other states.<o></o>

    If the researchers are correct there will be a national epidemic. When a disease is in a mobile population an epidemic is possible. Large groupings of dogs, such as shows, kennels, rescues, etc., are at risk.<o></o>

    Most vets across the country have never heard of the disease. A treatment protocol has not been developed. They are treating it as if it is kennel cough. All vets need to be informed about it ASAP! Many of us concerned dog people would like to see state statistics compiled on the illness and the eventual treatment outcomes. <o></o>

    We need you to get the word out.

    What can you do?

    1. Request that your state vet put this info on the state website, and that he send this info to all accredited vets in his state requesting that all vets report the incidence of the disease, diagnostic tests and the course of the illness to the state. Each incidence of illness needs:<o></o>

    a. Live cultures performed at a diagnostic laboratory

    b. Written reports on the disease by the attending vet<o></o>

    2. The AVMA needs to act now and provide ALL information regarding this disease to all members, pls contact them and ask them to contact all members with info. Please ask them to put something up on their website.

    AVMA email:

    avmainfo@avma.org

    WEBSITE:

    http://www.avma.org/

    3. Put the FLA VETERINARY ALERT AND ADVISORY ON YOUR WEBSITE.

    4. Contact the State Vet of Fla., and ask him to provide the FLA Veterinary Alert and advisory to all state vets, and to all state vet med associations, and to put it up on the FLA state Ag website:

    FLA State Ag:

    http://www.doacs.state.fl.us/index.html

    Email for FLA state Ag Commissioner: commissioner@doacs.state.fl.us

    State Vet:

    pls contact him:

    Dr. Thomas Holt

    Phone: 850 410-0900

    FAX: 850 410 0915

    email: holtt@doacs.state.fl.us



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    <o></o> We hope this will lead to better understanding of the disease, its mode of transmission, stats, treatment, and vaccine. WE HOPE THIS WILL SAVE LIVES!

    Please help us get the word out.
     
  3. I am confirming the validity of the "Canine Influenza" HIGHVOLTAGE refers in the posts. Three dogs have died in my area due to this ailment. Be careful y'all.
     
  4. missybee16

    missybee16 CH Dog

    Good to know, thanks. Mine already had some kind of flu signs 2 mo's. ago. They got on antibiotics and are doing fine.
     
  5. Rockstar

    Rockstar CH Dog

    Supposedly, a number of dogs have been infected by this virus in Wa State as well.
     
  6. mike333

    mike333 Big Dog

    Good info. thanks.:)
     
  7. jawbones

    jawbones Top Dog

  8. pulldoginks

    pulldoginks Banned

    thanks I will look in to it
     

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