Tom garner's breeding

In the game, did u get around to the DNA test?

 

you seem jealous....bitter....if you know anything there are plenty of bulldogs other than the obvious that he bred that are fantastic animals...proven...too many people hate on tg ...why?...cause he successful...cause they think or hear second hand that his breedings are false etc. Bullshit....i've met the man...I have dogs off the man....he has not done me wrong.He is giving us all a gift....his knowledge and love of this breed helps carry on the breed.We should be thankful for real dogmen like Tg.Some of his dogs are expensive...so what.People buy worthless english bulldogs for 2500.00 a pop..depending on the breeding I would pay that much for a real bulldog.

 

for sure like many every single day it's more dificult knew how your dog is really bred and I can tell you that TG is not the only famous breeder who's a peddler.

 

Rolex, littermate brother to Gloria

 

I'm not jealous or bitter.....I know that TG has put very good pups on the ground....

(1) some of his peds and papers have been suspect for years.....if that kind of thing is of the utmost importance to you....be extra extra careful when dealing with TG,.....better yet, spend your money elsewhere.

(2) I personally (not hearsay...not heard about town or read on boards) have had a few friends that have bought pups off a hot TG breeding,...only thing is when we all talked and compared notes about who got what and counted all the other folks who also claimed to have pups off the same breeding,......let's just say that bitch set a world record for how many pups she pushed out in one sitting,.....only Guinness wasn't informed.

(3) The situation with the poster above is not new,...my dog is 9/10 months and yours from the same sire/dam is 4/5 months and the one our buddy has is 14/15 months is not unusual by any means. Now, I'll admit that anything is possible,...well almost. I simply suggest that some of the die-hard, ninja-spartan TG defenders do a little research and math before talking out of their colons,....

Is he usually professional....damn straight,........has he ever said an unkind/disrespectful word to me? Never (but then again, I don't know the man like that anyway),....but talk to anyone who has ever gotten on his bad side and you'll hear stories just like the poster on top put out,...and worse.

Can a lot of "confusion" be explained by the fact that a bitch or two....or three...may have a similar name? Sure..

Is a person without connects more likely (in my limited opinion) to get what they're looking for from TG than from just about anybody else out there without the hoops and hassle?.....indeed.

When he says "I can get your pup to Timbuktu" can he deliver? Yes....and I've never heard anyone say otherwise........except in one case that had nothing to do with him.

All I can say is, putting out your own dogs in your own way is a whole lot easier when you print your own papers and won't dna....

I am no TG fan or hater,...but this dumb crap where people start calling people names for TELLING THE TRUTH AS THEY HAVE LIVED IT gets tiring and reveals those folks for the "TG dick-riders that they are." On the other hand, the unnecessary holier-than-thou "he's the superest super-duper game-dog destroying peddler" that's ever been born" hate (especially from those who have never looked at one of his dogs much less spoken with the man) makes you want to chuckle.

He is who he is, and he's a business man. Ask folks here who have had deep dealings with him and if they're honest, they'll tell you the same.

So, if you expect to find the saint of all bulldogs in NC and want to throw your money at him sight unseen and expect to get Chinaman reincarnate,.........good luck with that.

If you cannot accept that "he's a business man" doing business in a way that profits him,....and that there can be and are and always have been questions,...I suggest you back away from his bags as the smell and taste of his special-brew tea is clearly affecting your common sense. Wake the hell up.

 

Lol at this thread...

 

Highcoastal, I can't disagree with u on any of ur post above except on one thing!!...and that is u can get a dog from him that will remind u of chinaman!!...lol...I think tg has put out a few ch and grch and who knows how many 1x and 2x!!!...now I don't think tg is a saint by far but he has bred some good dogs even if they are not from the sire and dam he says they are from!...everybody kno tg is a peddler but so were all the other legends!!...I'm not saying tg has never hung papers because I personally dont kno but I do kno he has done alot of suspect shit to say he has hung papers before!...but guess wat??...alot of great legends hung papers to!....this game is nasty and full of devils disguised as saints and tg isn't the only one, there are plenty out there!...money has always been around these dogs and that reason right there is why their will always be suspect shit in this game!...it's kinda like it comes wit da territory, u feel me??....I just wanted to say that tg has and still is putting out good quality dogs nomatter if he is a peddler not!...he's a business man and good at wat he does!!....shiitttt...if I could sell that many dogs like he sells I would be doing the samething and wouldn't give a fukk who calls me a peddler!!..lol

 

damn straight pahdnuh........look at me now...I'm peddlin' paypurrr.............peddlin' like a muhfuckah...Okay?

 

Roflmao!!!!!!

 

With the moose as avatar ! LoL

 

How you gonnna hate from outside the box?.....you can't get in!
Leggo...

Bobby straight game....
Bolo straight rippin'....
Roscoe straight troof...
'cuz TG straight pimpin'

yup yup,...that shit down off El Negray
I'd be sellin' what you breed in ten years........in two days
Newbies would love me,....Peru X MJ
If I had what he had,...I would get paid.

I'd breed their balls off,....till they get saggy
You want that Cottingham blood?
....check Red Charlie

Look at me now...Look at me now....oh..
I'm peddlin' paypurr
Look at me now...Look at me now
........peddlin' like a mu'hafuckah

Bobby Peru to MaryJane 2 then Lil Kim and Shylo I would stick
'cuz wouldn't be a stud that's on my yard that don't come with a Golden Dick
oops I said Golden Dick...sticken' 'em regular...that's the trick.....
and since we're talkin' 'bout TG's dick...
'bout time some of y'all got off of it.

 

i never sayed TG is the only Famous Peddler, but the topic is TG Breedings, NOT Famous Peddler Breedings.

Sure he is a good Breeder, no matter, but for me also the greatest Peddler.

Champions with own Kennel prefix, must be own kennel Champions not buyed.

And Chilled/Frozen Semen is in my view Bullshit, Champions and Rom´s/Por´s where made, not cloned!

 

btw, i dont hate TG, he is okay i was on Bulldog Hills to visit his yard, he has his own mind and own view, but thats ok for me, i cant talk down about TG as Person.

But i dont understand the hype about TG, ok he bred bulldogs since jesus was born (hihi) and he had good Dogs... no matter

but it shows no respect in my eyes to buy champions and great champions their made their titles under other names and change Prefix.

And i dont understand the hype about Frisco or TG´s Rom dogs, Frisco has how much litters?
Chinaman has how much litters? etc etc

I like Producers or Roms the have litters you can count on your boths hands and get their rom or por titles...

If i will do 60 or more litters in the lifetime of a stud, its not hard to get rom or por status on it...

Yes TG is a good Breeder and the Best peddler in my view, and i dont understand the hype about him and his Dogs... just simple

 

Who's hatin buddy ? That moose just reminds me of some other mooses who had funny shit to say.

 

Gotcha...gotcha..........but that's just the beginning of the song.....

 

where're those ROM and POR dogs that we can count on our both hands?all the'top producers' on these days have more than 400,500 offspring.

 

Hold on now!!...wat do u mean by "on these days"??...its hounds that are producing bulldogs with only 4 or 5 litters and I'm not talking about tg hounds!...they are out there, believe that!!!....that's the shit that's hard to get!!

 

when I mean these days I'm talking about the modern producers they owners bred them lots of times very week or 10times a month and I know about dogs who produce good ones with only 4,5 litters and I like it dogs who produce and not bred too much I allways said that but allmost those top and famous producers are not in that list.

 

the hype around TG is that when someone wants to get a good dog and they dont know "somebody" they can get 1 from TG if they got the money.its damn hard to get a good dog when u aint in the loop.

 

also let me add that just about every self respecting aspiring apbt owner knows/heard about the chinaman bloodline.so the fact that you can get one from the yard where he lived is a tempting prop to a newbe.Name some more kennels where u could easily call up get a pup off a champ let alone a legend with out knowing someone or having to get it shipped outta country?Like it or not not every apbt is gon end up in the box the or in the hands of dogmen Tom obviously knows this.Dont forget that besides being the best box dog the apbt is also prob the best companion dog for those with an active lifestyle and its "Americas" dog.Shit u cant hardly get a good colby that easy"again if u aint in the loop".But i could call garner tomorrow and prob get a nice pup/dog.
I dont have a garner dog but dont see nothing wrong wit what he do