Questions about Zebo

Ppl have been matching ch to ch since these beautiful hounds set foot on U.S. soil!....some make it home some don't!...The owner of qoh wanted to go into tornado but for some reason the owner of tornado didn't make it happen...Abraham would have went into any bitch that was suppose to be bad with qoh!...the queen went into ch's and beat them easy!..not all are lookin for easy money, their are some that just like to go into top comp and when u do go into top comp a dog gamness will come into play!.

 

Plenty of hounds in the past have won on 2 flat tires..some even with no tires..u can come up with excuse to pick up a hound all night, if that's wat u do then cool but don't fault others because they don't, that's all I'm saying

 

It has nothing to do with titles not all CH's and GR CH's are created equal where gameness is concerned... I am talking about deep game dogs who were exceptional box dogs and very difficult to beat based on gameness. I know what you are saying but I also know many of those same dogs lived through several matches and the handlers could go home and talk about it. Not saying all wanted fast money but let's be real it's called a game for a reason I am not naive or dumb enough to believe those guys didn't take competition into play before they would send the their best winning dog into another dog. You have to play to win and you have to stay around long enough to keep winning. Good game dogs are not easy to come by I don't believe it's as easy as 123. So to breed a dog like Queen, Buck, Tornado, those are dogs that IMO come once in a lifetime you are going to try and keep that dog around long enough to not only win but to breed. You are not going to let your best dog die not if you can help it.

 

so u think stp spot picked when him went into to gr ch sandman , do u think ken allen spot picked when he took a 13 month old put into a dog that a man was willin to bet his house on, u think abrahms was spot pickin when he went into ch lou i dont think so

 

The reason champions have went into each other is plain and simple.The owner of each dog believed their dog was better and could win.STP guys thought Buck could beat Sandman so they made the match.The same for Ricky.Ricky also said that was a big mistake losing Sandman because he was a good producer for him.Ace believed his Queen could beat any female from 37 to 42.Could she have beaten Tornado at 42,who knows(that has been debated enough).Tornado beat some very good dogs with top dogmen backing their dogs from Tito,Hall,Tant,Chicago Combine and they all thought they had the dog to beat Tornado.As a matter of fact Bobby told Fat Bill that if Ken was going to use that Red bitch he used on my dog Cat will kill Ken's dog.Well they where all wrong. All these guys mention are some of the most experienced dog men in the game at the time.The reason matches are made is because someone believes their dog is better and by beating a dog everyone else thinks is the best puts their dog in a class by it's self.

 

Tornado>Q.O.H.

 

Ace and Ken were good friends, I think that was the reason why the Gr Ch Tornado vs Gr Ch Queen of Hearts match didn't happen, I would of had my money on the Queen.

 

It's no question in my mind the queen would have destroyed tornado!!...qoh was a devastating bitch!!!...and that's real talk ppl!...u have to put friends aside when it comes to these hounds!!...history is in the making that will repete itself!!..

 

Aint noooo tellin who would have won that one.

 

x2........

 

Nobody can say for sure who would have won.Ken is not around to say why the match didn't come off.Ace with no disrespect is telling his side that he tried to make it happen.Queen coming up to 42 would have worked against her against Tornado.To say well Queen was worked and rolled at 42.She looked good well that dog was not Tornado. The Queen was matched at 37 to 39 because that was her weight.Tornado was an ace also and made other top dogs look bad. I would have bet on her because I saw her and she was the best I ever saw.I wouldn't count either out.Thats why match making is so important where the match is held ,time of year,floor covering in the pit,size of pit,weight, and many others.So there is a lot of reasons a match doesn't come off.Neither side would be afraid because believed they had aces.

 

I agree redrum..but qoh went into better comp then tornado and smashed them in less than 40!...all of them!...but this is just my opinion!..tornado could have shocked the world but my money would have been on the queen!!

 

What weight was tornado shown at?

 

42 pretty sure

 

Ida bet on tornado!

 

If i was alive lol

 

If tornado would have won....it wouldent have ben shoking in the least bit. She is considered by manny to be the best ever period. So was the queen it would have ben akin to art vs zebo.....just a clasic match up between two of the best to ever look threw a collor.

 

right both dogs would have probably not been around after goin into each other anyways it would have probably ended like the ajax noriega match both dogs rip

 

At the time Tants Black Cat was considered the best dog in the country at 42 and nobody wanted any part of her.Ken took Tornado into Cat and Tant was in total disbelief when it was over.So much so that Tant tried to leave with the purse,now that started some shit.Tornado traveled in every match except against Chicago Combine.Bobby Hall had a bad stifle eating bitch that had power and Tornado beat her.Tito's dog was a bad bitch too,so much so that Ricky even backed up Tito with his own money.They lost big. I wouldn't have been shocked if Tornado beat the Queen at all.I would have been shocked at the match coming off ,going up 4 lbs to a dog like Tornado wouldn't have been smart match making.Maybe one reason Ken didn't want to do it, is when Tornado beat the Queen everyone would have said well Tornado is a 42lb dog and Queen is a 37lb. dog.It would have been a classic for sure.

 

LOL, i like how this thread went from zebo to QoH v Tornado