Ivomec

Isn't Ivomec and Ivermectin different?
Ivermectin is the drug and “Ivomec” is one of many common brand names for it.<O:p</O:p

 

Ahh okay I see. Thanks.

 

that seems like a high doseage for a dog.. for the goats i give 1cc per 22lbs of weight. and for dogs 1/10cc per 10 lbs of weight...

 

What's a high dosage? I'm not sure what response you are referring to.

 

sorry sug should have clarified... your vets doseage of 1cc per 10lbs.

 

I've never administered it before so I trusted what he said to do. It sure didn't seem like a lot when giving it to him in the tiny syringe. In all actuality, I've never given measured liquid medicine before in my life. When you give yours, do you have a big fat syringe or a little teeny tiny one? And are the measurements the same - or does it even make a difference? I know that sure makes me sound a bit dumb, but like I've said, I've never given meds like that before.

 

not knowing is never dumb!! i was in the same boat a few years back.

and the cc amount no matter what size syringe you use. i use 12cc syringes, and 6 cc syringes, depending on what animal around the farm i'm dealing with.
i have to buy whole boxes of them at a time or i run out in a months or so.

 

Well at least after all of that medicine, we finally got some hair growing back in!! lol

 

Bam-Bam, I'm going to ask you again (although you've been asked once already), to stop giving out inaccurate dosing information! The 0.1 cc per 10lb dosage is waaay to high & is NOT recommended by any veterinary study or reference or a qualified vet himself. That kind of dosage over the dog's lifetime will result in severe liver & kidney problems which will have a drastic negative impact on the dog's quality of life & will shorten his life span. I have given the correct dosage. There is no arguiing about it as it is the official, safe dosage.

 

Mia,
I hate to beat a dead horse, I have searched this topic to exhaustion and have not recieved a clear answer. I hope you have the patience to answer 1 more question.
A 7 month old 39lb. male with a pos. skin scrape for Demodex mange. Only two mites found under the microscope. Vet RX a collar similar to a flea collar for treatment. It is not working.
I have a bottle of Phoenectin(ivermectin) Product descrrption: Phoenectin injection is a clear,ready to use, sterile solution containing 1% ivermectin, 40% glycerol formal, 1.5% benzl alcohol(preservative),and propylene glycol, q.s.ad 100%.
Is this the premix Ivermec to propylene glycol you previously spoke of? or do I still mix? if so, what would be the CORRECT daily dosage for a 7 month old 39lb puppy to achieve the 2 neg. skin scrapings.
Thank you in advance for any help you can give me!!!!!!
Geo.

 

Is this the premix Ivermec to propylene glycol you previously spoke of?
No, it’s generic Ivomec!

if so, what would be the CORRECT daily dosage for a 7 month old 39lb puppy to achieve the 2 neg. skin scrapings.
Instead of looking for “2 negative skin scrapings”…start looking at why the dogs immune system is currently suppressed! Demodectic mange in not in the dogs genetic makeup! The mites are just a part of the flora of the skin of dogs and cause no clinical problems, being the dogs own immune system keeps them in check.
What are you currently feeding you dogs? Mites feed on the yeast living body and systemic yeast feed on nutritional yeast (carbohydrates). You should consider adding a quality probiotics to its diets also.Antioxidants minimize damage to cells, useful when immune support is needed! <O:p</O:p

Antioxidant choices would be: Zinc (chelated), Vitamin A, E, Selenium, Vitamin C (with bioflavonoids).<O:p</O:p

Good choice of herbs: Garlic (organic), grape fruit extract, Echinacea, Milk Thistle.

 

***Please stop giving out incorrect advice! 1/10th cc per 10lbs is a HUGE overdoes!***

 

.1 cc of 1% diluted "Ivomec" for the daily treatment of Demodetic Mange is not WAY TOO MUCH. The treatment of Demo is a very short-lived treatment...and there are alot of people on this thread talking about several different "types" or preperations of Ivermectin. In working experience, I will give a 50 lb dog .45-.5 cc DAILY....until all Demo-symptoms are gone (maybe 1.5 weeks)...plus one more week of treatment. I am not a licensed vet, although I have gone thru school, and I am not pushing MY dosage on anyone as the "proper" way. This has been the best and most effective solution I have used, given to me by a dogman of over 35 years. I personally use "Revolution" as a monthly preventative, and Ivomec only as a stop to mite-related issues. So far, only have had to treat one of "my" dogs over the years for this...but more so, I treat friends' animals....alot of "blue" dogs come my way for the "cure."

 

there are alot of people on this thread talking about several different "types" or preperations of Ivermectin.
Everyone is talking about Ivomec (1%), the breakdown above was for simple and accurate proper dosing of Ivomec to treat, i.e. heartworms.

I will give a 50 lb dog .45-.5 cc DAILY....until all Demo-symptoms are gone (maybe 1.5 weeks)...plus one more week of treatment.
Glad that inaccurate dosage worked for you…simple math you’d of known the recommended dosage is 600 ug/kg, PO, daily. Once one does the math you’d see you gave your dog roughly a third of what you should have!

I am not pushing MY dosage on anyone as the "proper" way.
Glad you’re not…it’s factually incorrect!

This has been the best and most effective solution I have used, given to me by a dogman of over 35 years.
“Best and most effective solution”-for what…only on treatment the dosage above is for and not what you are saying you treated?

Ivomec only as a stop to mite-related issues.
Why not address the reasons those mites are becoming out of control instead of masking the problem?

 

Thats probably the best piece of advice anyone could give. And that can be applied to just about every issue that comes up. To many people wanting to take the easy way out then scratching their heads and wondering what went wrong when the same issue pops up 6 months down the road instead of getting to the root of the issues and correcting those. Training, behavior issues, feeding.. and mites. Look at things like worms, stress, nutrition, dogs living enviroment..change one or two and generally you will have no more mite problem.. (generally ..not always..)

 

I will give a 50 lb dog .45-.5 cc DAILY....until all Demo-symptoms are gone (maybe 1.5 weeks)...plus one more week of treatment.
Glad that inaccurate dosage worked for you…simple math you’d of known the recommended dosage is 600 ug/kg, PO, daily. Once one does the math you’d see you gave your dog roughly a third of what you should have!
Are you tryin to tell me that the use of minimal medicine to get the job done, as to not intoxicate an animal, is not the desirable method?

I am not pushing MY dosage on anyone as the "proper" way.
Glad you’re not…it’s factually incorrect!
Well then, so is your approval of using an "unapproved for k-9" chemical, used to treat horses, cattle, and swine...on a dog for any reason. But it works, and when given in moderation, will not harm your domestic animal.

This has been the best and most effective solution I have used, given to me by a dogman of over 35 years.
“Best and most effective solution”-for what…only on treatment the dosage above is for and not what you are saying you treated?
I was talking about the eradication of localized demodetic mange in an apbt, and that stated dosage works. period dot. dont really care if its "not enough" for ya

Ivomec only as a stop to mite-related issues.
Why not address the reasons those mites are becoming out of control instead of masking the problem?
How about you not assume what ya dont know about. The "reasons" are mostly of an immune deficiency. If a close friend came to me with a health problem in their dog that he needs taken care of, I will address the problem. I will, if i can, fix the immediate problem, and then assess the causes for that problem. In most cases in my experience (around here), its been poor breeding practices and can be traced back to the immediate sire/dam. There have been alot of instances out here of this one particular bitch being bred over and over, and most of her litters ended up with demo starting at about 3.5 months old. After treatment, I have convinced a majority of those owners to spay or neuter their pets after the clinical signs are gone....and after 3 years of treating these litters in this manner, only 1 dog has had a small reoccurrance. He was treated a year and a half ago, and has been problem free since. So...if you were....dont judge what others do out of any sort of ignorance. Treating a conidtion is not the same as masking it.
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I think Texas meant to say you are giving 3x the necessary amount!

The dosages I & Texas have listed come from reputable medical journals & veterinary books! Overdosing on Ivermectin WILL cause kidney & liver damage & sometimes death. Why on why is more better?

As fo the dosage to treat demodex, it is not labeled for that use. There is no set standard on the dosage as most vets will take into account the dog's weight & severity of the case & then use the recommended dosage & go from there. I am NOT a fan of using Ivomec to mask the symptoms of Demodex. Sorry. It's not the best interest of the dog.

 

It is also very effective treating ear mites, about .05cc per ear in an adult once they are cleaned out.

 

Although Ivomec can be effective in clearing up ear mites, it only takes a drop or 2 (w/a medicine dropper that can be bought from the pharmacy section) to be effective. .5cc is a lot!

 

Additional products to ease the kidneys and liver can and should be given while on a treatment with a chemical such as ivermectin. Yes, there are different preferred dosages for the treatment of ear mites, than there are for the treatment of worms. The treatment for demodetic mange mites differs from the others, and when in need of help, after the dogs immune system cannot keep things under control, outside help is needed. I do not agree with "if a little is good, more must be better" and understand how the chemical works. I have orally treated dogs (with ivermectin) with severe problems, and it has no shit, saved their lives. Whether some people think its too much or too little, it has worked, safely...not only for myself, but for many others as well. Sorry if you dont agree...god bless free will