How many generations does it take to be a BD?

I was just curious if there are differences in opinions about this.

How many generations does it take for a dog to be considered a real BD? 3 generations? 4? 7? 14?

It came to mind when I thought of how things were back in the 50's. If I remember my American history lessons, Southern states had different ideas of what was considered a "black" person and a "White". What do I mean? Well, today, you see a person with blue eyes, light complexion, and blond hair and we automatically think...it is a Caucasian. If memory serves me right, in the 50's-60's, some states (the people not necessarily the government) had a 3 generation rule (If you had an ancestor within 3 generations that was black, you were considered black) and others had a 5 generation rule.

Thus, my question to you. How many generations does it take to have a real BD?

How many generations do the several kennel clubs require before accepting a dog as a breed dog?

 

I asked this question on other boards & got varying answers but I think 5 generations of breeding would be entitled purebreed

 

Are you talking about a new breed, or a Pit Bull? On some single registrations, they ask for at least 4 generations to be registered as one of the breeds that is already registered, but I don't know if you're trying to start a new breed.

 

Give me both if you would like. The more detailed answer you give the better. I actually meant our Bull Dogs but regarding a new breed sounds like a good supplemental question.

 

I think all these people that are breeding HUGE Pit Bulls need to make their own breed. I wonder what it would take to get them all together to do so. They can't possibly think those dogs are still considered Pit Bulls, and in that case, I wonder how many generations they'd have to prove their dogs have been coming out like that.

 

I am surprised at the lack of responses this specific thread has inspired. I have seen many ask for peds to see if a specific dog was a "real" APBT. Thus, it would mean to me that each has their own understanding/feeling of how many generations is required to be considered "pure" bred.

Are you afraid to state a reply in case there are a few "funny-looking" dogs that meet your criteria? Come on guys/gals cross the scratch line........

Personally, I think 4 generations will suffice.

 

I dont really understand what you are trying to say. Either you are really green and trying to learn all you can about this breed or you have an agenda and is fishing to see who will bite the bait. No offense but your questions is very confusing. You need to state more clearly of what you are asking then maybe more people will respond to your questions.

 

as far as my dog and future dogs, i'd want all dogs on the ped to be right. i've got a 6 gen ped, and went back further than that checking what i could. and i could give a s#^t about what another dog has,really. as long as it doesn't get near mine. they SHOULD have better rules about reg. dogs as apbt's. but, obviously they don't. i agree wholeheartedly with whoever said the "big box-heads" need to be classified as another breed. as well as most blues. i beleivee it had been talked about callin them "american bully", but who knows with all that.

 

I thinks he saying if a dog has like Mastiff in it 9 generations ago, and was only bred to Full blooded pit bulls for nine gen. then would it be considered a full blooded pit bull.
I say NO. I still would not breed to a whopper/dagger/camolot dog that has those line 10 generations back. They're still mixed on my book.

 

yeah, come to think of it...you have been askin alot of f^$ked up questions lately rocky's human. you just bored or what? seem to be tryin to stir up some of these peoples poop!lol

 

think of it like this, take a glass of pure water and put a drop of piss in it... you can keep adding all the water you want, but the bottom line is there is still piss in that glass. Aint aint no way in hell im drinking it, lol.

 

And I think if you are trying to create a new breed you need 4 generations. but the catch 22 is that your foundation of those 4 must be from dogs that you also bred.
so it would take 16 dogs to produce a single litter under that criteria. 8 for the sire and 8 for the dam. This is what I believe is needed when people try to start thier own blodlines as well. YOu cant breed your dog once and think the pups are your bloodline. You have done nothing but further the bloodline of the breeder.
does that make sense?

 

ROFLMAO! Thats great. I absolutely agree, if it has any other breed in it, it is a mutt. That is common sense. Who cares about how far back the other breed was crossed in? It is still a mutt either way you cut it.

 

Yeah, but what if it were 4 or 5 generations old?

 

well then they're all mutts, lol, when you go back far enough

 

LOL this is one of the greatest things i have seen said on here in awhile...!!! LMAO

 

well what makes an apbt and apbt..certainly isnt the size of its head, the color of its coat or it being 25 pounds or 70 pounds..

so if u were to bred cur to cur to cur even if they were purebred apbts .. all u would have is an amstaff...

as for everything else , I dunno....

 

Yeah, but when they go back that far, they were never APBTs. They didn't exist yet. This guy is talking about another breed being crossed within a few generations.

 

OKAY LETS SAY 20 GEN?
BECAUSE SOME OF THESE WHOPPER BRED DOGS ARE COMING IN AT LIKE 50 LBS THEY WILL BE BRED MORE AND MORE TO APBT IN A FEW YEARS WHOPPER WON'T SHOW UP- MAYBE ALREADY GONE- WHAT DO YOU THINK THEN? i THINK IT'S STILL MIXED BUT BY THEN YOU WILL NEVER KNOW.

 

i just had to quote that!! and it's true. and if you were serious into the dogs,,,you'd know their past right. and if you used a reputable breeder to begin with, you most likely not have to worry about the problem. especially if they are breeding right.