my new ofrn pup

crazy horse honestly I can say you I can talk to,I'm pretty sure you understand and what's understood doesn't need explaining....yes I do understand I.m's point of view,but I dindnt breed these dogs. But I am curious how it would turn out so that's that. How else would I know ask someone lol

 

Ch. Dutchess was 15/16 Red Devil. 1/16 Zebo through Bull who lost to Braddock in 39, reported.

 

Now I hope the breeder, who I know, isn't stupid enough to sell what he should keep and cull.
He'll never be able to replace it without my help is he sells it.

 

The Ceresco Kid, Sire was Uno, mother was Lil Maggie. The tightest bred Red Devil dog when he was a live.
My house dog, Ms. C is his daughter.

 

I had 3 litter last year from that stock and hope to have one more this year.
I increase my yard where about 75% of it is from that stock.

 

No its not. Besides remember who has breeding right to the dam and bump your price about $300. Don't embarrass yourself and the dogs. If you can't get a decent price for them, don't breed them.

 

Top side is pretty good too. The male is a brother to dual Ch. Otis and Phyllis is still alive and had a litter last winter. In fact she had the last litter I produced.

 

That was a very poor picture of him. It was taken when he was older and posted when he was alive by someone else without permission. Then post on the Internet and as everyone knows, I don't post my dogs pictures on to the Net that are still alive.
If you ever got to see him when he was alive you would have a different opinion.
Big difference, these were not culls. They were real.

 

I'm sure you know there is a difference between Ed Reid and Colin Reid from Canada as in Ch. Gambler.
I'm not surprise it didn't work out, if you knew the truth of those pedigrees you would know why.
BTW Wise' didn't own Maggie and wasn't the breeder of Sister Sue or Max.
There is a reason why you never saw Max Jr. stock or dogs bred by Bob Wise on our yard. Though Max Jr. did produce Bob Wilcox SDJ Ch. Penny Ante.

 

Ya didn't he become a conformation champion. I know in other areas he was very right.
I'll have to look around and find the picture of him. I thought it was on the Net. I know over seas his sister really worked out as well as his mother.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=332347

 

He was open. Say what you like when you are paying. BTW so is his grandson.

 

I know owner of Zapata. He also owns Ch. Reba from my stock. And we all know what Reba's mother did now don't we. Talk about culling out a whole yard DAM!!!!!!!!!!!

 

IM i did suspect and gave some thought to it after i posted that just maybe he may have been old in the picture, ive had a couple old ones around and they do start to get a bit like that in the front end.

 

I wasn't the breeder of Jada, a friend of mine Danny C. in AL did. I have breeding rights to Bert but with having all his litter mate sisters and brother who most are still alive, I haven't needed too.
Pearl's sire and dam was really good dogs. I'm not sure of her quality. But I personally have extremely good stock off both bred differently.
You can't tell people how to breed their dogs but there is a reason why they all got sold.
Each to their own.

 

Here is Ch. Reba:
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=246360


Her mother Salina all bulldog. Reba sire Mork was a litter mate to Dirty Diana the mother of Ch. Voodoo.
I have yet seen a bad pup come off her. Diana and Mork's brother, Red Jack is just like their sire Ch. Bobcat II 4xw.

 

in all honesty mate back in the day i didn't even know his ped when i got him, i did take a look at it but it didn't mean anything to me,i just put it in the drawer, i was young and wanted me a bulldog lol...papers were just one of those things someone gave you along with a dog.
i know a little better these day's, that was along time ago.

 

Reba looks fantastic. Why was she bred to zapata?

 

Red Devil is known for it. This is how I know Red Boy had it in him. When he was older, look at his left elbow.


Ceresco Kid wasn't bred for show. In his pedigree Mitzie only appears twice in the 5th and once in the 6th. All the rest was Max and Suzie Que. Very heavy Red Devil. Ceresco's mother had less Mitzie like his grandfather on the father side. Ceresco was off a nephew to aunt breeding.
When you breeding down from stock of the quality of Gr. Ch. Koko R.O.M. I really don't care about looks.

 

I heard she was or going to be. At least Zapata isn't widows peak. :lol:

 

Your opinion is correct, you are wrong. Dual Ch. Dutchess doesn't have Eli in her. She was over 5/8ths my blood inbred. The rest of the Red Devil came from the late Ralph Anderson from South Bend.