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mouth vs game

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by 601BTNENT, Oct 2, 2014.

  1. 601BTNENT

    601BTNENT Pup

    just want some feed back on the topic. mouth vs game. witch one do you think is more reliable or just a combo of both. if so what?
     
  2. A good game 1 will always be hard to beat. Mouth is nice but game is a necessity. GAME
     
  3. intensity will make 1 quit before mouth will
     
  4. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    Its a 2 sided coin. From a breeding standpoint I would want the game dog, from a gambling stand point, I want the one that will kill you before your gameness has a chance to show. The most realiable IMO is a good blend of both. Like what was already stated, a smart gamedog who lacks mouth many times can hold out from getting in trouble long enough to make a less game, hard biting dog get frustrated and quit.
     
  5. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    However, a deep game dog with a vise grip of a mouth is a tough one to beat.
     
  6. redrumdog

    redrumdog Top Dog

    I always prefer gameness first . If you have bite,and endurance with gameness oh man now you have something special. Pit smarts and wrestling ability is good traits with gameness as well. Gameness is what separates the Bulldog from other breeds. Most people where counting on stopping their opponent before gameness would come into the picture. Look at a lot of Bullyson, Paladin,and Zebo bred dogs they were known for taking out one very quick and was considered top end dogs.
     
  7. TDK

    TDK CH Dog Staff Member

    I agree with AGK but I know there are factors involved in regard to what IS a hard biting dog. One: I don't think many people who speak about it have actually seen enough dogs to compare what constitutes a hard biting dog. Two: Styles can negate some biting prowess. I'm sure most have seen that a hard hitter only hits hard when he lands his punches. Three: Where do you make a definition as to whether one is a hard biter not, based on the length of time it maintains that hard bite? Do you consider a dog that bites hard for ten to fifteen minutes yet weakens in that power, a hard biting dog? I don't. I call those barnstormers and only a hard biting dog if they can maintain a good amount of it as it goes along. EFFECTIVE mouth is paramount.

    As it comes to breeding, nothing can really replace gameness, no matter how many other things you consider or would like to see. Take them when you get them as to all the other attributes, IMO.
     
  8. FrankDublin

    FrankDublin CH Dog

    When I think of a hard mouth I think more along the lines of pressure than cutting which is a great attribute to have. . But for me to base a yard around a dog or line I would look for gameness over all
     
  9. punch650

    punch650 Big Dog

    True:-$ :-$ :-$
     
  10. the.peon

    the.peon Top Dog

    Wtf...lol!
     
  11. STONEY

    STONEY Pup

    longtime debate preferably gamedogs but you cant go with no blood in your body period.....
     
  12. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    have to come al in one ..............................
     
  13. Forever-So REAL

    Forever-So REAL Quintuple Grand Champion

    Caviar Gold!!!
     
  14. X

    X Banned

    601BTNENT, that is a nice looking dog you're using as your avatar...

    Being that this is a theoretical discussion and one of which is being discussed for mere entertainment purposes, I will offer my opinion of an answer to the above question...

    From a technical standpoint, a dog's bite is judged more upon the dog's will than merely the jaw muscles the dog has. Every dog has the ability to bite as hard as it wants to bite, for as long as it wants to bite as hard, regardless of the jaw muscles, the misconception of difference of jaw structure or even the conditioning the dog has undergone. Gameness basically follows the same pattern... the dog's will to continue through any and all adversities, regardless of structure or conditioning.

    From a pure historical standpoint, leaving technicalities aside, form follows function. Historically, the function of an APBT was to go the distance and to overcome (gameness).

    I am quite aware I did not offer any answer to the question at hand. That is because: technically speaking, asking for a comparison of the two will inevitably lead to a long, opinionated and pointless discussion\debate based on personal preference. Such preferences, in my opinion, weigh heavily upon breeding for desired traits to pacify human greed, not that of which will better the dogs or the breed.
     
  15. feastodg

    feastodg Big Dog

    I'll take the game ear sucking/head dog with avg mouth please
     
  16. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    From a pure historical standpoint, leaving technicalities aside, form follows function. Historically, the function of an APBT was to go the distance and to overcome (gameness).
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    yes................
    that little game is to go over fast as possible
     
  17. BOTP Kennels

    BOTP Kennels Big Dog

    I agree game is a necessity. But how can u test the game was of a dog if its finishing shit in short order BC of its mouth..i talked to a ot who said his best dog he ever had he could never test her gameness BC of how hard she bit it was short order
     
  18. BOTP Kennels

    BOTP Kennels Big Dog

    alot of people think letting a dog go for 10 mins is enough to say the animal is game....but wouldve u run into something with that mouth that wont let u make it to 10 mins???
     
  19. feastodg

    feastodg Big Dog

    !0 minutes is barely a bump
     
  20. GTB

    GTB Pup

    I would take a hard biting, game hound but back to the question: I would take a game hound over one that can shut it because if the hard biting hound can't put the game one away in the times that it's put other hogs away then (imo) it knows that it's in trouble and will (maybe) get discouraged. That's just my opinion though. I love a hard biting game one that can use that vise grip like it wants during the whole hunt rather than a hound that uses it within the first 20-30 minutes and gives it away for the rest of the duration
     

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