Fake champions over the years

Kobe tore his Achilles... And came back to shoot the free throws... That says a lot. He's on his last leg tho. Kobe is a TOP competitor, WAS a top athlete. It's hard for some to let it go. He helped the city get 4 rings. Wit the kind of money LA has, you know they gone pay the BEST LAKER EVER!!

 

Lebron taking a pay cut was him CONCEDING THAT HE NEEDED HELP!! Mike, Kobe, hell, even Scottie the Pimp Pippen got what they deserved! Sports are meant to be "civilly" argued. I appreciate not being called any names... Yet lol

 

On topic. There will be fake Chs as long as there is money to fuel the "Ego Fire". Pup sales and stud fees seem like the biggest reasons guys would lie to me. Iron Mike and TDK should be all over this one!

 

LeBron took a pay cut to pay in Miami to finance his help, because he knew that was his only chance at a ring

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There will always be fake titles because people stretch the truth. Imo titles don't mean much. We've all known of one timers or two timers that would make short work of sine champions and grand champions

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Good discussion guys

 

sure it does, there is a fast lane thats extreme rarley with out money can you merge left...
the backwoods sates such as the carolinas have alot of champions that wouldnt get off the the on ramp...
theres not many ways that a dog can be put in a state of the art keep, travel into top comp with out backers...
when too much is on the line, the dogs individual interest isnt irreleivant and it goes harder or longer than it should as money is the only outcome for most...
when more cash is on the line conditioners and handelers are usually hired, there skill is sought forr the extreme comp...
please tell mee how money doesnt bring out the best, look at the kentucky derby...

Am I fan ???no I think the dogs best interest should come first and the heavier the gambler the more detatched they are from the dogs...
yes two dogs can be good comp for eachother with out all that I listed, but no most wont make it in the fast lane so to say...

 

What do you gents think of this:
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=offspring&dog_id=304626
If you notice GTM Malucius 2l 1w lost his first, won over his half brother without courtesy and then lost to CH Moncro. I don't want to cast aspersions but I found it curious.

 

I think you're dead on.

 

There's nothing to think of it other than he maybe shouldn't have been brought out again if not after the first then definately after his second.

 

ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [331098] :: <FONT COLOR=RED>LIGHTHOUSE BABY BOY 3XW</FONT>
champion and three time winner seems so closee but so far, a great big(76#s of) misconception on rolls, off the chainn and a real winner...

 

One thing I have learnt, being from a non mainstream territory, is to decipher code from internet magazines and other literature. No one will publish a long "drag fight" as that but would rewrite the details into an epic saga; think Buck v Sandman. Similarly, littermates/close relatives going into each other, though it does happen, raises question marks. Sunday morning rolls could easily be published as matches. Then top it off a "CH" matched into a known cur, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I won't be too hasty to jump the bandwagon of the world's newest most potent bloodline.

 

Why? Where would they start. That list would be long. Like starting with Dibo. He wasn't a champion and neither was his son Buck. Ed Crenshaw had him when he was 9 years old and he was a 2xw. Why bust on someone else. Like Gizmo? I never heard Billy T claim he was a champion. I always heard he was 2xw. The first thing everyone needs to do is forget the bull shit on Pedigree Online! If you are FB there is pages from 1972 to 2005 of Sporting Dog Journal champions being listed, like was done on R.O.M. and Grand Champions. So far it is 9 pages deep. The end is coming up soon. I.M. thought about posting them here but to many haters, he figures why should he?

 

You can hate the truth, but you can't change it! Others may not like IM for whatever reason. That's on them. He's seen and read A LOT and can share as much. I'm not on FB, but I might need to look up those pages

 

Lol people change the truth all the time to suit their own needs. Happens every day in every aspect of life. Honesty and people go together like vinegar and water. C2K is right, why would he want to bother as people will debate the info he puts right in their face. Can't blame him..

 

Show me the ones that produce the title holders.All I need to know.

 

I mean if you look at a dogs production career it should show you a blueprint of what he has produced , thier should be enough good dogs there that he has produced that you know that its not fake.Anything else imo is iust a gamble on your behalf.

 

I agree and truth be told,whats a list do???

 

You right about ppl and honesty. When you change the truth tho, it's a lie. The truth is still out there. Liars know the truth to bend and change it

 

A mentor of mine says somethin like that. Breed to the one that produced the Ch or Gr Ch