Today 's problem

Yeah I will continue to believe in my mind that it takes more than breeding a couple of dogs to be a "breeder". And for the record I've bred a few litters and listed someone else as the breeder, because I don't register dogs in my name.... So what would they be??? Lol

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We make the choice and put the two bulldogs together and let the lord take it from there as evrything in life cycles, give it back to where it come from...

 

Good bit of real talk in this thread.

 

Well if you were a real dog man than you wouldn't be falsifying the papers.
You will just use a kennel name instead.
You was a real dog man with real dogs , you wouldn't have to be told what's on a registration form.
And if you were a real old timer we wouldn't be having this discussion because you would know that breeding 2 dogs put you in the registry record books as the breeder of that litter .
Buy a dog with paper from who ever & you may see nothing but names of people you never heard of as the breeder of that dog.
Read the internet to learn about dogs & you'll never learn the most basic of things about dogs.
Scared to use your own name ,then do what other dog men do & get a kennel name.
But weather you register the dog or not "YOU ARE STILL THE BREEDER OF THE TWO DOGS YOU BREED".
COMMON SINCE ISN'T COMMON.

 

I think the disconnect that you two are having Cajun and ziggy is that when Cajun refers to breeder (I believe) what he means is breeder in the sense of someone who breeds as a passion who studies what they're breeding has weighed outcomes and has thoughtfully bred. And by the statement you wrote ziggy (I believe) what you meant was if you've bred two dogs you are by definition a breeder in simple terms.

There's a cliche saying we have in my unit in the army "there's soldiers then there's soldiers" meaning there is people that enlist in the army and sign there name on the line do nothing for the whole of the Army and receive a paycheck and title, and then there's real soldiers who go to war, study combat and respect their enemies, follow regulations, adhear to standards ( said or unsaid ), make giant leaps in knowledge of warfare and other things all in the name of the army. Both are technically soldiers by definition.

One simply embodies the term the other just does what it takes to get what he wants out of it or does want it takes to get by.

I apologize for the length. Got passionate


I'm all ears.

 

Lmfao ziggy your starting to sound like a real dumbass. So you mean to tell me that registering a dog in someone else you knows name and using there address is falsifying paperwork? No you stupid Shit, just shows I have enough common fucking sense to not want the adba to have my information so they can sell it to the hsus. I don't need to be told how my dogs are bred that's why only a few are even registered . I'm not "scared" to use my own name I'm just fucking smart enough not to. But I Geuss a motherfucker like that breeds 10 generations of dogs in twenty years just for the sake of breeding dogs and having your own "family" doesn't mind the world knowing where you keep em all at. You really are a piece of fucking work, you talk as if you are a real dogma. Your just some asshole that breeds dogs for the fuck of it so you can say you have you own family. So if you think you are a real dogman I'd rather you not consider me one. And yes you may be the breeder of the litter in question but it still doesn't make you a breeder. Buddy of mine got grazed by a bullet once and cleaned the wound and stitched him up..... Geuss I'm a fucking doctor too, point is doing something once or twice is a dam sight different than dedicating your life to it. And to end, when the fuck did I ever say I was an old timer lmfao

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Been said a thousand times.
Never bred one dog to see my name but have seen every dog with my name.
That means I know what I feed & don't question it.
If I ran thru competition like I said ,never got out , & still feed dogs then why would I not have the same dogs.
If I been around ling enough to compete against other families & come out victor , then I wouldn't not breed my winning dogs for what new to people that's new.
You see when I talk about dogs that outclassed those from the biggest names 5-10- 15 yrs ago & so on, and I still feed , then I would have them.
If I claim that I breed WORKING DOGS, then if isn't a grand ch, something's missing & I need to identify it & try to breed to one that does have it.
THE MORE YOU WORK WITH WORKING DOGS , THE MORE YOU WILL CULL , & THE MORE YOU WILL BREED TO REPLACE.
So when you talk about doctors, job of mine trained me & certified me to be the next best thing on the battle filed as a doctor & labeled me Combat Life Saver.
Still got the certificate.
You didn't have to say that you were an old timer I can tell & so can others, but this discussion didn't pertain too you in the 1st place but you felt the need to involve yourself not understanding the full picture of who I was talking to.
If I offend you because you don't understand , than I apologize, because it's not expected of you.
But I was directing it to someone going out of there way who assumes everyone just buys dogs these days & deals with the same type thought process.
But I promise if are around long enough to really understand you will truly understand how foolish you sound now.
LISTEN MORE & TALK LESS & YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN'T READ ON THE INTERNET OR FIND IN BOOKS !

 

You are 100% correct but like training soldiers weekly you train for the real world.
You do Upward training & train so that they can replace you @ a moments notice.
Me & a few counter parts watched for many of yrs how the young & dumb would go buy dogs & comeback as if they are now the for front only to get imbarassed & broke in a matter of only a few minutes.
People who bred those dogs only gave them enough info to be dangerous & yet reliant to always return to them.
It's not or never been you have to see this breeder to get these results .Especially when you already have the same ingredients .
Don Mayfield didn't live to be 200yrs old. Bert Sorrell's didn't breed dogs for 100 yrs. Neither did Floyd B. & so on.
So how do they & did they have so many generations of dogs?
Answer is methods of breeding.
Once you learn the family , use the methods. It's easy to develop you own.
That's all I try to provide.
Understanding from some one who has done, not only bought & really have no clue .
Spent almost 1/2 my life upward training & use different methods for different people to get one result. Just trying to find where he stands @ to direct him.
Sorry but I let passionate also.
But I agree with you.

 

good read...

 

No disconnect, sticking two dogs together doesn't make you a breeder. Anymore than playing basketball with friends makes you a basketball player. And I fail to see how one can breed ten generations of working dogs in twenty years.... under any circumstances.

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