new here, can you help?

I have a female pit 80lbs brown with white markings , I have breed her with a light fawn almost white red nose male about 130lbs not overweight. We got 9 puppys 2 blues with white markings, a few brendles? (spelling) , are blues uncommon because everyone interested wants the blues? Female is BFKC father is ADBA registered, I don't see much talk about BFKC is this a bad club? Do I need to go back 6 gen to find the bloodlines, I only have to the 4th gen on my dog? Please help me, everyone wants to know the bloodlines and I don't know what is a fast way to find out? Thanks for any help Brandy in NC.

 

if u dont kno u really shouldnt have bred ur dog...an a true standard bred pit bull will never get to 130 pounds cull the whole f'n litter

 

It was not my idea to breed them, but now that it is done, all I would like is some help to learn about the breed. I love my pit, everyone has to start from somewhere you did not just automaticly know all that you know about the breed.I can not correct my mistakes unless I learn. Even if these are crap dogs they will still make someone a loving pet. Thanks

 

well first thing real apbt shouldnt weigh over 60-65 lbs chain weight man

 

If you had done RESEARCH like any responsible person would before getting a dog you would know that 60 pounds is PUSHING IT! Let alone 80 and 130lbs. they are likely not purebred. Don't bother papering them and sell them at a reasonable fee $50- $100 as pit bull mixes because that is what they are, also require that the new owners have thier dogs spayed or neutered and set up an enforcable contract and CHECK UP ON THEM. If the new prospective owners cant agree to that then dont sell them a dog. If you are not willing to do that then they are better off euthanized.


p.s. I am almost 100% sure this will go in one ear and out the other.

 

If the mother and father already have papers, does this mean that they could not be true pits due to the weight of them alone. The papers are no good? Thanks

 

Papers dont mean much unless you KNOW how the dog is bred. Papers run for the most part on a trust system. say for example I have a female pit bull and she gets bred to the neighbors boxer. and say I have a friend that has a male pit bull and they let me use thier males reg number. All I do is send it in and say this dog is the dad. And wahla my puppies are registered as purebred APBT even though they are half boxer. See what I mean? papers dont mean much unless you know the breeder and the breeder is an honest person. Who ever sold you an 80 lbs female and 130lbs male are obviously NOT honest breeders.

 

Thank you for the info, sorry if I offended anyone due to my ignorance. Any other replys are appricated. Thank you.

 

Well, this is the place to come for advice, sometimes advice can be harsh...but its all with the best intentions Hope you stick around, and if you cant find an answer with a search, just ask. As for the papers issue 1.)There are NO 130 lb. pure "pitbulls", I would be skeptical to see a 100 lber...and thats hog fat. 2.) Papers are only worth as much as the paper they are printed on if you dont buy from a reputable breeder. And to be quite frank, anyone selling dogs that large to unknowing buyers in tact...is not a reputable breeder.

Its all said and done now I guess, I definetly recommend a spay/neuter procedure asap for the dogs involved in the breeding. I'm sure they are wonderful pets, but thousands of wonderful pets die every year in the shelter, ya know? This is a working breed, and only the best specimins of the working aspect of the breed should be bred during such a over-population crisis. And no, I'm not being a hypocrit- I have never bred a litter and doubt I ever will. This is coming from a man with his favorite dog tattooed on his chest, I love him with all my heart, but breeding him would be selfish and would not improve the breed any. Do you understand where I'm coming from?

 

To answer more parts of your question:

1.) Blues are not rare. They are actually being produced in abundance by anybody who can get their hands on a breeding pair. Everybody wants them because they are the current "fad" color.

2.) I have never heard of BFKC. Can you tell us what it stands for? IMO, the only reputable registries for the APBT are the ADBA and UKC. Lots of new registries for the breed have popped up in the last few years, but they tend to register anything with 4 legs (or at least 3; no less than 2 for sure).

My recommendation is to take this one mistake and learn from it. Spay your girl when the pups are weaned and just enjoy her as a pet. She doesn't sound like she's legitimately registered, and she's oversized for the breed. Get a pediatric (or whatever they call it) spay/neuter on the puppies before you place them, so the folks who get those dogs don't turn around and breed them. Breeding is best left to the folks who are dedicated to bettering the breed, especially since there is a shortage of worthwhile homes for the breed. (I don't doubt that you'll have no problem placing the puppies, but like 70% of dogs don't stay in the same home for their lifetime. Ask about those dogs in 3-4 years and you'll see what I mean.)

Good luck.

 

Yes , and thank you for your comment, I will hang around, honesty is the best pollicy.

 

The procedure is called a "juvenile altering" baha, and I whole heartedly agree. I would spay/neuter everyone of those dogs before letting them leave. It would be a shame to see (in all likeliness) illegitimatly papered mutts being bred and furthering the problems of over-population. You will see peoples true intentions if they back out of giving the dog a home after they realize they wont be able to peddle its dick/vagina off like a cheap hooker for their own pocketbooks. Anyone and everyone wants to get involved in breeding "pits" nowdays, I wish they would walk through their local shelter...ask how many "pits" they put down a year, or if they even adopt them out. Ask how many of the ones adopted out come back later, or how long they will sit before getting the needle. I wish everyone who bred a litter had the spine to euthanize a dog for every puppy they created, which stole a good dogs home.

 

My boyfriend just came home from 2nd shift and I told him about the post, he said it's just like a chick to get things wrong. His friend is the owner of the father of the puppys and he said the dog does not weigh that much, and I overheard their conversation wrong, he said the father weighs about 80lbs. And that Isis the mother only weighs about 75 lbs. We will weigh her tommorow, sorry for the (non truth), Thats what I get for not getting the facts. But any how I will look into the puppy spay and fix, I sounds like a great idea. The BFKC is for Bona Fide Kennel Club Inc. Thank's for the info all is very helpful.

 

Blue is a color most want because it was rare. I bred Chow Chows and mine throw Blue (not black blue but, gun metal gray) and everyone wanted them because they were rare . I now own a fawn and white red nose Pit Bull who is 100% Chaos Bloodlines. As For BFK its an ok Registery the only one i have heard that was bad was APBR and APR or ADR. But, that all word of mouth. As For the fastes way to find out bloodlines is talk to the Breeder of each dog. Hope this helps

 

Thanks for being open-minded. Its refreshing.

If memory serves, the Bona Fide Kennel Club is one of those that has popped up in recent years. IMO, not legitimate. Basically, you can't take those papers to the ADBA or UKC and single-reg your dog because they're not going to recognize the registry.

 

Well the BFKC has been around for sometime now. It is hard to get in touch with and about the only way I have found to do so is to write the and then wait for an answer. The only problem that I see in registering these puppies comes from the fact that the parents are from different registries. Thus making it hard to get the litter registered.

You are right you cn use the BFKC regstration to register with the ADBA with a single registry. And as far as UKC I dont think they recognize the BFKC registry.

 

Thanks, so much for everyones help, I'll keep a ck on all new info, Thanks again.Brandy

 

Blue in pit bulls is NOT rare. As I heard it said once before, "if blue is so rare, why is it there so many of them?" In fact as one poster posted said before blue is actually being mass produced.

The reason most ppl were intrested in the blues is b/c it's the current fad color. Pit bull fads are like hemlines. They come & go. I remember when black pit bulls were all the rage b/c Zebo was black. Then buckskins were the "in" thing b/c of Jeep. After that red/rednose was the color to have. Then super-sized rednoses were the bee's knees. After that blue was the in thing. Now it's super-sized blues. In a few months it will be some other color.

As for BFKC it is a reputable registry run by a true dogman. A lot of ppl use it as an alternative to the ADBA.

Also, I would verify that breeding if you can. I don't think you can get blues (which is just a dilute of black) out of a brown dog bred to a non-masked light fawn. I know brown is recessive to black. I think non-masked fawn may be as well. So to get blues is kinda strange. A DNA test on those pups may be in order.

 

ummm, the BFKC is pretty much the best registry around now...ADBA sucks!!!!!!!!!!! And YES the ADBA accepts the BFKC and so does the UKC simply because all you have to do is get adba papers and then ukc, but who wants ukc anyways? i prefer the BFKC because they're fast and reliable and honest! Mims is the one who runs the registry...

 

In a few months it will be some other color.


i f'n wish...lol itll take longer than that