"Cesar's Way" by Cesar Milan

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Nobody is hating its just reality. Do you believe everything you see on TV???? You think they report everything even if it could ruiend them NO WAY. Thats how the REAL World works wake up and smell the coffee lol Dont get me wrong I love to watch Ceasar Milans show but Im not naive to believe everything he says or does or that his techniques works 100% of the time.

 

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Every trainer you ask is going to tell you what works for THEM. Ask 10 different trainers, and you'll probably hear 10 different reponses. One of my closest friends has been training for over 40 years. I love her as a friend, but I hate the way she trains. She has an impressive collection of trophies and ribbons, but imo, she's down right mean to the dogs. I go for positive reinforcement, and she trains almost the opposite. So, personally, it's best to find a trainer you like, respect, feel comfortable with, and are not afraid to talk to, should you ever question their motives.
Good point on Cesar tho: yes, the public IS only going to see what works, not what's going on behind the camera.
If there was "THE" perfect training method, everyone would be using it.Since eveyone has their own ideas and methods, ultimately, there will be just has many different books written about it regarding everyones' different methods.

 

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I think that "it's a scam" comment was about the link provided with Cesar on cnn. Thats how I took it. That link did look like a scam to me. I see similar things that people e-mail all the time, most of the time they're fake.

 

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Of course the "pet population" is going to be impressed...LOL

This guy Promotes and creates dangerous situations.I do not considder this guy to be an authority on the APBT or a responsible petbull/pet owner.

 

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Just letting yall know he has a pit mix on tonight that protects rocks lol...and another terrier mix too.

 

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All I'm saying is that from what I've seen, he seems to know what he's doing. I'm sure that his stuff doesn't work 100% of the time-nothing ever works THAT well. I think he has probably had success in the majority of dogs he has dealt with. I know it's TV, but there's only so much you can phone in. As far as the guy who's suing him, think of the number of dog's Caesar has worked with, and this is the only report about this type of thing I've seen. There's plenty of dogs out there that have no business on a treadmill-either cause they're dummies or whatever. No matter what the subject is, you'll always have someone that has something negative to say about it. That's how the world works.

But hey-if his techniques worked on Eric Cartman, it can work on anyone! LMAO!

 

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i saw that it was priceless

 

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Before you buy into the whole "dog whisperer" thing, if you actually watch the show, the people he works with have no idea what to do with dogs and they shouldn't really own them anyways. They've never really made any real meaningful attempts to train or discipline their dogs in any way. He is the "dog trainer" to the stars that should tell you something right away. People in Hollywood are not known for their intelligence. I'm not trying to rag on him, just stating observations. Every "case" is the same too. Everything with him is a dominance issue. Also, he doesn't ever seem to "cure" dogs of their problems but rather sends them into avoidance. Ask a professional accomplished dog trainer about him, you might be surprised what they say. And the whole, "no dog is too much for me" is a big joke. I can think of few dogs I know personally he'd have nothing to do with. Heck I saw him get backed down by a German Shepherd on his show, you could tell he was intimidated. Not that it was a bad thing or I blame him, but he's the dog whisperer right? And the real kicker...his ideas on APBT and socializing with other dogs. It's asking for trouble. What APBTs have can't be trained, loved, or beat out of them, it's what they are. They can never be trusted 100% around other dogs period! But on a positive note, he seems to have saved a lot of dogs from euthanasia and for the most part projects a very positive image of APBTs and even Rottweilers

 

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I do not know for sure, and of course I have no facts to back it up. I am simply going by my observations, that it is a hoax to lead people to believe that any dog behavior can be fixed. I think he's done some wonderful things with animals, but I feel his views on APBT's namely, are dangerous and unjusitifable.

 

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Ironic:

I JUST found this on another board:
http://www.macon.com/mld/macon<WBR>/entertainment/14505140.htm


'Dog Whisperer' Cesar Millan sued by TV producer
Associated Press


LOS ANGELES - A television producer is suing dog trainer Cesar Millan, star of TV's "The Dog Whisperer," claiming that his Labrador retriever was injured at Millan's training facility after being suffocated by a choke collar and forced to run on a treadmill.


In a lawsuit filed Thursday in Superior Court, "8 Simple Rules" producer Flody Suarez says he took 5-year-old Gator to the Dog Psychology Center on Feb. 27 to deal with fears of other dogs and strangers.


Hours after dropping the dog off at the facility, Suarez claimed a worker called to inform him the animal had been rushed to a veterinarian. He later found the dog "bleeding from his mouth and nose, in an oxygen tent gasping for breath and with severe bruising to his back inner thighs," the lawsuit claims.


The facility's workers allegedly placed a choke collar on the dog, pulled him onto a treadmill and forced him to "overwork." Suarez says he spent at least $25,000 on medical bills and the dog must undergo more surgeries for damage to his esophagus.


A call to the Dog Psychology Center, also named as a defendant, was not immediately returned. A spokesman for National Geographic Channel, which airs Millan's show, declined comment.


"As of this time, the National Geographic Channel has not been served with either lawsuit, and we do not comment on pending litigation," said Russell Howard, the channel's vice president of communications.


The complaint claims breach of contract, fraud, animal cruelty and intentional infliction of emotional distress, among other allegations. It seeks more than $25,000 in damages.



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I also dont agree with all of his teachings........but damn that s.o.b. is awsome with dogs. Even the crazy ones. I saw a episode whare he went into someones backyard who owned a vary agresve white shepard that was known to bite people. Of course this mean a$$ shep garded his taritory. I thought to my self it was a nice run dog wisperer R.I.P. Next thing you know he's coming out of the back yard with the dang dog on a leash.(not an animal control pole..un uh, a peice of frggin rope) I dont belive in rehabiltating a bulldog that has bit someone. Grab a pillow pup its dirt nap time. He may not be right in ALL of his teachings but I must say this of the man he does portray the breed in a positve light

 

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Well let me ask you something....what happens when people see his pack of pits running together and assume they can do the same. They buy up a few "pits" and let them roam together until one day the inevitable happens-they start fighting. The uneducated owner is now a media headline "I dont know what happened, Chico was a great dog, something must of just snapped...he went crazy and killed Fido". If they would of never been led to believe these are pack dogs, such incidents could very easily be avoided. So does his teachings really put the breed in a positive light in the long run?

 

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I guess it's too bad that stupid people get to own animals! Of course WE all know that APBTs can't really be trusted not to fight. Hopefully there won't be too many idiots out there who think, "Hey, I'm gonna git me a bunch of pits like Caesar!" I'm really amazed that they all seem so calm together-even if it is only for five or ten minutes just to get the shot. I think that's quite a feat in itself! Sometimes it's like they don't even notice eachother. I agree that he tries to portray pits in a better light, but there's also the negative in that some people may think anyone can handle them. I'll tell ya, my first was a little much for me, but I had lots of time and patience to train him properly, and accept him as the dog he was born to be. There's the "don't try this at home" disclaimer, but stupid people don't read that, do they? I've noticed that most of the owners featured on the show have no business having pets in the first place. One lady said she didn't want to punish her dog because she didn't want it to be mad at her. HELLO?! Dogs are NOT people! Would you rather have your dog be "mad" at you now, or bite someone's appendage off later because you didn't correct the behavior. DUH...

I think the best thing to remember when training your dog is that no method is perfect, but you can take the good points from each method and try your own style. Whatever works for you. Did anyone see the episode with the pit/rhodesian ridgeback mix that was obsessed with rocks? That was outrageous! Of course, they're only going to show the good parts on the show, but there was one dog (at least) that ended up being euthanized after the show, because she bit too many people. She was a Mini Pin. And people say pit bulls are mean!

 

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This is simple. He makes a lot of money, and I'm not aware of ONE title he's ever earned in obedience against legitimate competition. Thats how you tell if a dog trainer is legit. It would be funny and interesting to see someone give him, oh, say Machobuck and have Cesar integrate HIM into his "pack". I have a feeling that show would never air.

 

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well from what i can deduce is that yes, he does portray pit bulls and other aggressive breeds in a good way but chances are a person who is afraid of pit bulls or other said breeds won't just be like "oh well ceasar had a bunch of dogs like that 2gether, why can't i... he's legit"... also i think if they have 2 pit bulls together they'd realize the dogs would be a little 2 aggressive with each other and (logically) seperate them... mainly what i think he does is show that no dog is worth giving up on... all of them should and can be given a chance if you just work with them and that it's not the dog's fault, it's the human's...

on another note, i absolutely LOVE his pit bull Daddy... i think he's gorgeous

 

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I never denied that. He promotes then & creates them many times just by thinking that the current owners can handle the dog after his "sessions" when it's already bee proven that they can't....& usually people have already been bitten.

The main aspects I stress that he stresses as well is a) people quit treating your dog(s) like a child (they are not) & b) dogs were bred to work, so work them (a tired dog is a happy dog).

Now, after writing this original post, I finished the book & I must say I about puked in his little chapter on pit bull fighters as he just touted the same crap that the HSUS touted & basically referred to street thugs & street fighters. I skipped that section. However, I did get a kick out of his comment on people who put large spiked collars on their pit bulls & walk them with heavy chains....(hint, hint ).

Just as in every trainer & ever vet we decided to use or even consider using, we must consider all sides. I already stated that there is a lot about his methods (mainly the pack mentality in all breeds of dogs & the fact that he would rather have a dog "live" out the remainder of his life in a cage than be euthanized.....I would have euthanized about 70% of his cases), but he does give some great advice to newbie owners who think that spoiling their pit bull, or any dog, is a good thing & tries to pound it into people's heads that DOGS NEED JOBS.

 

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Cesar is trying to show his support for the Pit breed. His wife is the one who puts these shows together. He has & tried, alot of methods in training I see regularly. His Pits are good sponsors of the techniques, in which he displays on his show. The dogs he rehabilitates, go up for adoption & he personally works with the new owners on training. Yes, not all will accept his methods & not alot of other trainers, agree with him. But, they all don't train the same. I have been to his facility & I liked what I saw. He was taught from his grandfather, living in Mexico. Now he is giving us a chance at, helping ourselves. No hurt in that. And, I like the way he displays all his dogs together in the same yard. Mine all get along & I have never had a single problem. I don't call that luck, it's proper training. Luv-a-bull-girl; You should see his dog Popeye. One-eyed lovable big guy. And, up for adoption.

 

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I'm sure that's not the ONLY way to tell if a trainer is legit. Besides, I'm pretty sure that he considers himself a dog pychologist, not a trainer. Two different things.

I agree as well. German Shepherds and Border Collies are just two examples that I can think of that are known for "going nuts" if they're not excersized/worked. Not everyone can handle those breeds, just like how some people can't handle APBTs. Working dogs need jobs, period. And although it's nice to think your pet is like a child, with human thoughts and feelings, they're not! You've got to think on their level, and I think Caesar does a pretty good job with that.

 

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Regarding training credentials. YES. Showing that you've done something against legit competition is the only OBJECTIVE way to check someone out. I'll never trust a trainer who can't show me they know what they are talking about.

But having done some training and been around both trainers and people calling themselves trainers I can tell the difference. There is no board licensing people to call themselves dog trainers, anyone can make any claim they want. So if your looking for objective proof someone knows their stuff, titles with legit organizations is the way to tell.

Althought the advice to not treat you dog like a child and to give them a job to do is sound, Caser gives lots of BAD advice. He encourages newbies to go against a lot of basic Pitbull saftey rules, and in that way is bad news, IMO. Never trust a Pitbull not to fight.

 

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i read the book and i was really happy with the info i also give it two thumb up there are a few theing that where hard to talk but i love is phiosppy of the dog phyc and that we should look at dogs frirts as animales then dogs then breed then by name and that energy is a unvrisal language and while i dont like the hole idea of pits in a pack but it seems to work really well for him and he gives a good apesct of this breed and i agree that there are no proplem breeds onley proplem owners