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Jeep vs Chavis Jocko

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by Botswana Kennels, Nov 20, 2011.

  1. Foundation

    Foundation Big Dog

    except.. like I said before ... both dogs would have died and what a waste (alligator X butcher boy) would be that exact result most likely as that is what happened with sampson of nigger.
  2. 08smoke

    08smoke Banned

    my old man seen jeep in action, and pulled against his brother charlie. He said "Midnight Cowboy" would have ended jeep, and one of the best dogs he has ever seen.
  3. SBKennels

    SBKennels Pup

    I have some close inside sources that also said that Charlie was a better dog than Jeep. Don't get me wrong none of these post are saying that Jeep is a bad dog cause I done seen some Jeep dogs pull like hell. But the best are when they are crossed out with the redboy/jocko or the carver stuff.
  4. 08smoke

    08smoke Banned

    yea i asked him about "charlie being better than jeep" but he said you really coudnt say that, both where good dogs and he had seen nothing charlie had that jeep didnt have, and nothing jeep had that charlie didnt have, so you really coudnt say that charlie was better than jeep.

    now you cannot take anything away from jeep, he is one of the most prized, and well respected dogs for a reason. the jeep x carver cross was not used as much, nor as pupular as the rbj x jeep cross but there was some bad ass jeep x carver crosses.
    the old man had a jeep x carver cross dog that was bad mofo, and he called out tom and v & b's dog that they traded for double trouble, ("""") with that jeep x carver dog, but the deal wasnt agreed upon. let the past stay in the past.
  5. bollybok

    bollybok Pup

    About 5 ore 6 owners tought they had a better dog ,but guess what they didnt they lost.
  6. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    the purest of the jocko...petra 5 times jocko nozem &petra.jpg
  7. BlackDogs

    BlackDogs Pup

    J.Crenshaw did say he liked Ch.Charlie better than Ch.Jeep, he said it early in their lives. After Ch.Charlie quit to J.Carver's Ch.Hotstick in 1:10 a few years later he never said it again and no longer felt that way. That's why you will see Ch.Jeep in a J.Crenshaw pedigree and never Ch.Charlie.
  8. BlackDogs

    BlackDogs Pup

    Historically speaking...Regarding The Jeep x Jocko thread - Ch.Argo, Ch.Apples and Ch.Jocko were all litter mates. Jocko's owner did have some great luck locally, however he was a extremely poor man (no offence to him or anyone else poor) and simply could not afford to travel with Jocko thus Jocko was always in his own backyard. Ch.Argo and Ch.Apples did travel, Ch.Argo quit to Ch.Bobby Jr. and Ch.Apples quit to Gr.Ch.Molly Bee. The trio's mother Rast's Queenie also quit to Snakeman's Shelby and Queenie's sire quit to Bass' Redboy. This was not a game family of animals. Ch.Jocko was asked for by Ch.Paladin's owner but he declined. If Jocko met jeep I see him quitting just as his brother, sister, mother and grand father all did.

    As a side note...I always felt the Gr.Ch.Yellow dogs were what ever they were in spite of the Jocko blood and not because of it. The Redboy blood has been crossed with many different lines with success where as it's hard to think of many successful Jocko crosses when Jocko was crossed into any other line other than the Redboy line.
  9. tubrunwva

    tubrunwva Big Dog

    Good post black dogs! Many make the mistake of thinking the jocko dogs were added to the redboy line to give them finish, but in reality ppl were adding the redboy dogs to the jocko dogs to keep them motivated and add gameness.
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  10. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    tunbrum why many people where thinking wrong .. where that come from ...
    why you add ..if there is not much on the other side .
  11. showdogs

    showdogs Banned

    if jc liked ch charlie better than ch jeep up untill he lost he more than likely did bred off him but changed the pedigrees to make them look like ch jeep and thats why you dont see ch charlie
  12. stickler

    stickler Banned

    JC never used Jeep for his own breedings.
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  13. BlackDogs

    BlackDogs Pup

    Crenshaw's Charlie got sold as a puppy and was owned by someone else. Charlie wasn't bred until after his career when he was given to Super Gnat for free.
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 18, 2012
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  14. BlackDogs

    BlackDogs Pup

    True, however almost every animal he personally owned in the 1980's through when he got out had the name Jeep in it's pedigree at least once and most times more.
  15. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    How about gameness? The most important trait lol
  16. bollybok

    bollybok Pup

    What happend to some of the post overhere is it delayed en why
  17. showdogs

    showdogs Banned

    posts can change on here just like pedigrees can, hope i dont get banned now lol
  18. Foundation

    Foundation Big Dog

  19. PITPAL1

    PITPAL1 Big Dog

    Sorry I didn’t respond to this sooner, but I have wanted to get my hands on that article forever and could never find it. If you could post or pm me I would really appreciate it.
    Thank u!
  20. David Hunt

    David Hunt A thousand mile Journey begins with one step.

    Most of us know Jocko was a back end Bulldog and was a killer. Jeep #1 on Rom list was a Deep Game Extremely athletic going 3:45 against Homer. It doesn't really matter which dog I think would win but I personally stay away from dogs that run from mouth. Jmo. Naturally both dogs were great and that jeep r was heavy Colby , Jocko Heavy Mayfield breeding Blood +Earl Tuders ) Don made great breedings so He established The Mayfield Line. I personally owned a pair of Mayfield/Jocko Hounds, I was very pleased with them both. Breeding Jeep/Jocko/ Redboy Definitely raised The Bar....

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