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Let's hope it works out

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by ben brockton, Jul 16, 2020.

  1. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

  2. benthere

    benthere CH Dog Staff Member

    Good blood but pretty inbred, how many are you getting off the litter? There’s some solid Chicago breeding there through L. Talarico, Bill Pritts, Bill Gersten and WCC.
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  3. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    Only getting one off the litter. I prefer to use inbred dogs as a cross to my own stock witch is heavy line bred anyway.
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  4. benthere

    benthere CH Dog Staff Member

    You’re absolutely right. In my experience dealing with highly inbred litters there is often quite a bit of variation within the litter, in other words the “good genes” will be there to see if you know what to look for.
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  5. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Father-daughter with half brother half sister twist is pretty tight paper wise.

    A guy out by the coast of NC has some of the Blackrocks stuff from Nitro bred to his Bolio/Red Boy stuff.

    He had pretty good luck using it as an out and then back to his dogs with the good ones.

    Well bred. Good luck.

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  6. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    Ya slim I have always bred tight. I really focused on tight bred crossed dogs believing that they would have enough genetic variation due to the foundation they have within.
  7. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Proven blood, worth a shot.. Good luck Ben :-B
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  8. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I am no breeder, as I always give that disclaimer, LOL, but tight is OK if the selection process is based on the dog's traits vs. how many times so and so shows up in a 4 or 6 generation pedigree.

    There was guy near here that (on paper) had the best bred Mayday dogs anywhere, heck, even Victor would have bought one back.

    He doubled down on a freak mouthed cur. He would get one dog just game enough to scratch but the process had been validated by the freaked mouth dogs who quit on top.

    Mayday and all his greatness was way in the back and although we know Mayday was not perfect what we fund out was this guy doubled down on one of his imperfections.

    Puppies sold for $$$$ when the Mayday train was rolling. He may have had one or two winners in a hundred or so puppies.

    But those papers sure looked good. LOL

    This afflicts every family and every line just after it is deemed successful.

    Good luck with the addition. I am sort of in the start over mode and I have expanded my horizons. I have a hodge podge of puppies with no real rhyme nor reason when stacking their pedigrees to one another.

    Time will tell which ones "I like".

  9. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    neither know, nor care what blood you feed slim, but above statement has that ring of church bells in heaven =D>

    DISCOIII Premium Member Premium Member

    I bought similar blood from Black Souls Kennel from down south about 4 years ago for a cross to blood that I have had for forty years. His name is Alex or Alexis as they named him http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=635614 he turned out to be a very game bulldog going 1:38. I bred him first to a pure V. Jackson bitch that came from him, they are almost 28 months old got my fingers crossed I think that blood should cross well with any solid family as long as it is tested.
  11. benthere

    benthere CH Dog Staff Member

    Looks like a trifecta, structure-mouth-game
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  12. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    False pregnancy the bitch didn't take. Fucking dogs will lie to ya sometimes. So getting off of this if she takes.
  13. SBCK

    SBCK Pup

    Hugo Verdugo was a damn good producer.Very consistent strain of dogs.Thick boned,good structured,wild animals with very high prey drive.
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  14. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

  15. G.L

    G.L Pup

  16. corvettedex

    corvettedex CH Dog Premium Member

  17. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    Thanks bro hope you and yours are doing good.
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    DISCOIII Premium Member Premium Member

    I was looking at your bulldog’s pedigree and I noticed Black Rocks Nazi in the fourth generation he is probably one of the gamest living bulldogs to be bred back then, I have a half brother to him on my yard still producing and he is game 11 years old in July you might have heard of him as he was on two different yards before I bought him and won with him Redstorm
  19. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    They were really high on nazi. A lot of effort to keep him around after the show. Most likely I will take the bitch and breed her to a ch that is a lil red /nazi crossed dog down the road.
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  20. corvettedex

    corvettedex CH Dog Premium Member

    World Class Bulldogs. I would be honored to own 1 or a pair for that matter...

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