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official/unofficial pedigree research thread

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by rallyracer, Mar 15, 2009.

  1. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    I really couldnt add a hole lot more than has already been said.Good advice from the members here.Better to be had.
  2. 80BOWTIE

    80BOWTIE Big Dog

    I seen that ped with a pup for sale on another site
  3. Amills

    Amills Pup

    Does anyone know the name, kennel, or bloodline of this dog?

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  4. Jeremi187

    Jeremi187 Pup

  5. Moore's "Yauma". Off "Wayne's baby butters" + Griffith's "the red hope" BFKC
  6. BFKC #66,833L
  7. starla

    starla Pup

    I need help in looking into my old dogs pedigree. She passed last year. I'm trying to find if there are any dogs bred like this around anymore. Also, I'm curious if anyone else had one of these pups, which is a longshot. Can anyone comment on the pedigree in general? Anyone know these dogs?

    The pedigree, as given to me by Kold Blood Kennels is on pedigrees online.
    Sire is Gateway's Babe.
    Dam is The Goldie Bitch who was out of Carter's Private Goldie and Gateway's Sox Jr.

    The photo on the pedigree site shows a pic of Red Sky that does not do her justice. When I saw the photos of Cheskey's Krazy Kelsea, it was like looking at a photo of Red. She was that close in appearance.

    From what I remember, the breeding was done during a time period in which Gateway was having problems. I think Red was the only red dog in a litter of ?13?. It was a big one. She came from PA. Born in 2004. The breeder mentioned another litter- The Goldie Bitches brother to a Hollingsworth-Yellow-Colby bitch. Another breeding mentioned with a dog called "Jammer".

    Now this is all a long time ago and many generations of dogs certainly came after Red. But I'm hoping someone here can fill me in on anything at all about the pedigree or if anyone happens to have this blood, let me know. I met the breeder on a message board and she posted as KLynn. I can't seem to track her down and lost the paperwork with her name when I moved.
  8. I have been studying a lot the modern day Boudreaux family of dogs peds some before the 90s , I see a outcross that a lot of young dog men over look and that is the % of boomerang that was bred into his family of dogs , once the cross was made he then bred the crossed dogs into his pure family of (Eli , Bully , Eli Jr & Art Bred Dogs ) then Linebred the best litters and then inbred the best individuals. When talking about (Eli Bred Dogs) a lot of us don't know that they are indeed crossed dogs not pure Eli they are crossed and that's why we use the term ( Boudreaux Bred) look at dogs like scream not pure Eli can some one show me some pure eli peds and some Boudreaux peds and maybe some that are crossed into each other ?
  9. Outsiders

    Outsiders Pup


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  10. Outsiders

    Outsiders Pup

    My eli dog
  11. kiwidogman

    kiwidogman Top Dog

    Your Eli/Snooty dog.
  12. Outsiders

    Outsiders Pup

    Shit gets confusing. I got him from TG. He said more or less Eli blood. I figured Eli/Carver. Plus he has a lot of Chinaman and Frisco. But aren't they Eli also?
  13. kiwidogman

    kiwidogman Top Dog

    Chinaman was promoted as an Eli Snooty cross. So by extension his inbred son Frisco was too. Heck of a well bred Bulldog you have there by the way.
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  14. Holocaust

    Holocaust Match dog

    At the risk if sounding like a dick, you paid tg $ for a dog and you have no idea what it is?
    Carolinacur likes this.
  15. kiwidogman

    kiwidogman Top Dog

  16. kiwidogman

    kiwidogman Top Dog

    If a guy wants to learn to drive in a Rolls Royce good on him ;)
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  17. Holocaust

    Holocaust Match dog

    Yeah but I bought a Ferrari for huffy money lol.

    That's a far bit if cash to toss out for something you don't know much about. He could've bounced around adba shows and got a similar dog for cheaper and learned what it was.

    Not trying to come down on him at all. He did what he did and likely got a damn fine dog, just I would've recommended a different route I guess.
  18. kiwidogman

    kiwidogman Top Dog

    Some apprentices want quality tools, others make do with any old thing.
    Outsiders likes this.
  19. Outsiders

    Outsiders Pup

    I get what you guys are saying. And yes, I did pay $$ for him. Up where I live, no one has real apbt's. Everything is xxl this and that. My last dog was an amstaff. This time I wanted the real thing. I did my searching and decided to go with TG. I really like the buckskin black mask look. At the time he only had 2. Didn't really care what the bloodline was.
    david63 likes this.
  20. Holocaust

    Holocaust Match dog

    You're a hop skip and jump from biggest adba show of the year. You're surrounded by apbt.

    He's a nice looking dog either way.
    SMD760, bamaman and YellowJohnJocko like this.

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