What's your favorite body type for Bulldogs and why?

limey just truth ...thats al
you have ducked the mayfield genes sence you had your hand on a gamedog .
but you where waiting for hours in front of the house of somebody that had pure handsome genes in the house .
this is just one thing .....

 

Im starting to get a feeling that the nr1 and the nr 2 dogman have left this forum wel at least havend been on this topic


wich number are you giving yourself 1.2.or 3

back to topic

 

Wow some big words are written!

OK, there are some natural/physical laws. From that point of view some kind of build can be better than other.
I also agree that it is nice to see a well-packaged dog who knows how to perform.

But there is a catch, there are various types of performance, different styles. It is not the same if someone is attacker or defense style and so on.

 

All depends on what u believe..read..or know first hand.
The perfect dog in my mind has balance of conformation and abilities. some say conformity has nill outcome. if that's true..why ain't a juan gotti bullie cleaning house at shows? food for thought.different strokes..everyone entitled to their opinion ..but at the end of the day ..game is a state of mind.

 

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IMO Red ,This post is very well said !!! Keep em coming !

 

Your wrong just admit it already lol
If all things were equal then both dogs would have perfect conformation as well and again the one who had more heart would win.. but having more heart wouldn't work either, since all things are equal and all... :lol:
If all things were equal then you would always have a draw.

 

That says it all right there--^


Things are never equal and those who think that they are live in a fairy tale world...... A dog with poor conformation, yet has a heart that has no quit in it will ruin a dog with perfect conformation but less hearts day. Everyday and twice on Sunday. There are way more examples of dogs with conformation flaws that are out there making rank and those who have already become legends than there are dogs with perfect conformation doing the same... Comparing what it takes to win in the square to what it takes to win in the show ring is like comparing apples to French fries... :lol:


The theory "All things being equal" is a ridiculous thing to debate as things are NOT equal since we don't live in a perfect world.

 

This topic is just for fun.
So there is not bad answer.

 

I'll throw a wrench in this LOL. What if both dogs have the same heart and will to win.......what determines the outcome? I suppose physique, fighting styles, conditioning, experience, etc. would all come into play. No real point to my post, just that IMO the heart is probably the most important factor, but body type, muscular leverage, and the other things that Limey mentioned do factor in as well. Stratton equates conformation to wrestling ability in his The Book of The American Pit Bull Terrier, where he discusses the bone and muscle structure needed to be an efficient winner. Pages 54 to 61 are interesting. He does state what others have stated, that the mind and the heart of the dog is of the utmost importance. I would love to see someone take a large sample of the more "famous" [] matches and see how each winner adhered to the standards of conformation or at least determine if, on average, a certain body style was noticed more frequently. This undertaking would be for someone with lots of time on their hands LOL!!!!

 

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TDK You are IMO, All ways on Point !!! The Truth as you know it - 'The Real Story' of the House.........

 

I don't think anyone is suggesting that you breed solely for conformation's sake, unless I misread it somewhere. But I do believe that some physical traits are more desirable than others IN GENERAL, like Stratton is basically stating from what sounds like a kinesiology viewpoint.

 

Hahahaha Dat was a nice one ...

 

I agree with your statement as well TDK. Breeding for intent is tantamount. IMO all body, no heart.....loser. All heart, no body....loser (I would have had some Div.1 offers in football if it was based on my heart alone LOL). If you have both, look out! There are exceptions of course, and usually the body will follow the mind.

 

Basically as long as the dog has no deformities hindering there performance there body type is the least of ones concerns especially in working/performance stock.

A body type does NOT determine performance, PERFORMANCE is the determining factor and everything else just falls into place.

 

Would you agree though that body type may determine the efficiency of the performance?

 

this is the best and only answer . conformation well go to a show .

 

IMO, "what IT has" vs "what IT has" must bring some physical attributes to the table, one being better than the other.... with gameness and heart perhaps being the determining factor. BTW, my point of view isn't from a "conformation...go to a show" stance, I could care less about that. I just look at it from an athletic/physical ability nature. Some are just more physically gifted than others, and I believe that has to be accounted for. I'll leave it at that, and go burn my Stratton books LOL!!! Good discussion guys.