Bobby Hall

yeah, the Rottweiler had the most psi if im not mistaken. sorry, off topic

 

Very much my thoughts on it as well. Now if they tested a large number of dogs, and tested those dogs repeatly under different circumstances... well, maybe they might get a little closer to an accurate view on the topic.

 

I think the idea of head size = bite strength is just an old wives tale. I had a both a male & female who had big, well shaped heads & both were monster biters, BUT the only accurate bite force test (done by Nat'l Geographic) rated the German Shepherd as having the hardest bite, out biting both the Rott (2nd) & the APBT (3rd). And I just saw a show last night that said jaw length, not head size contributes the most to bite power, which would make sense since the GSD has a longer muzzle than both the Rott & APBT.

But why list head size? Because belief in an old wives' tale? Because big heads look cool? Who knows? But I never knew BH (or any game dog breeder for that matter) used it as a selling point. I thought that was an invention by the bluff breeders! lol.

What I wonder is how big these dogs were? My 83 lb (c.w.) male Cody had a 23.5 in. head & I see one of his FEMALES had a 21 in head! Also, I noticed that all the dogs were built well & had nice straight legs. I wonder what he did down the line to end up with those defomed legs you see on some of his dogs now?

 

those peds aint nothin to scoff at. There are some bonefide bulldogs in there, that earned thier keep.

Honesty and ethics, Alot of the same could be said for Maurice, however good dogs are where you find em! Lets not forget If one must find themselves selling to the public and makeing a living at doing so....they have created a niche.

If your going to bash ol Bobby Hall ,atleast you can do is invite him to the conversation and yes he is quite the character.

 

Is this the National Geographic test.It still just looks like one dog of each breed,I doubt if they looked to terribly hard to find a real hard mouthed dog.I imagine each breed of dog was just a pretty random pick. www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhptJPfp1aw

 

Random my ass. HAHAHAHAHA I know all 3 of those dogs very well and I can tell you that Rocky is a HARD BITING FOOL on suit or sleeve. Aidan is litter mate to my male both have serious mouth and the GSD belongs to a Capital Hill Police officer and he will put you on your bottom quick.

 

That was it! Thank you! My mistake.

 

That was pretty cool. Quite a big difference in the first to second bite. I guess they were just getting warmed up! lol I'd love to have my boys bite tested.

 

For the most part it is - whenever I see an ad proclaiming head or neck size, weight, or color, I instantly discount the "breeder" as not being worth his salt. You never saw ads fom WSK, PP, FB, STB, or others making such worthless claims. The one person I know who has dealt with him doesn't think much of him, but I've never got the story as to why.

 

Again I say,if you want an accurate test it's going to take more than 1 dog of 3 breeds.I might have more confidence in the test if they took a 100 dogs and got an average per dog.

 

You're right gh32. A testing of several dogs would yield more accurate results. HOWEVER ... that being said, I will go w/ the NG test & be happy for it b/c this is legitimate "proof" we can use to show to JQP our dogs are not as dangerous as the biased media makes them out to be. A newspaper man or AR whacko can make up anything, but you can't fight the results of an unbaised test using a psi machine ... right? :p

 

here's another test.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZm037jPNgc

american bulldog
belgium mal
dutch shep
mastiff

 

Yeah it was a test done by discovery i'm gonna look for the link and the american pit had about 275 and the rottweiler had about 385.
If i remember.

But it makes no differents to me, i had a bitch she was around 14 kilogram so +- 32 lbs, when 2 rot, broke out i was taking care of one she the other one :p.
They where like 45 kg or +- 100 lbs, but the damage that my dog did to his face, the rott backt off while my dog continued.
So for me it's all inside the head of the dog that count's and good training ofcourse:rolleyes:

 

The Ramsey stuff is still very strong. you just have to know some one to get it. Arty/Cherry is the way to go.

 

wat dog he produce is winning in hog cacthing