boyles blood

Looks like this animal is built for the show ring. It's not really built for rugged field show. I really think they've gotten away from the line as in the type of animal this line is bred to be. I see the look in the eye of the animal that everyone else is talking about. I've seen skittish animals still have a great confident look in their eye. I haven't seen this animal live so I won't judge it. But from what I see this is not an animal I would think is a good canidate to be bred unless you breed it to a family of dogs that have a great bone structure.

 

Lol...I was just about to post her ped n say the same thing.

 

unless parents were DNA it aint worth a shit. All it means is that all the offspring off of Voodoo can be checked to see if they are off of him. As fare as Vodoo producing< take if from people that actually know what they are talking about when it comes to working dogs! He was a very very poor producer and his kids arent producing that well either. Some produce OK!. You cant say a dog is a great producer unless you physically have seen good working dogs off him or the line in pure form for your own eyes. He did throw some pretty dogs

 

The reason people see "Boyles" dogs mostly black thick dogs is because he bred most of his dogs around Bobby Jr who was a thick built dog.. I'm not tryna pry or create rumor this is a serious question.. I remember when Pat had them Bullyson n eli Jr dogs that he was breeding and then cake bolio tombstone stock but he still had some Eli.. Whatever happened to them Eli dogs??

 

whats funny is that i just looked back at some gamedogs from 50 years ago in the YF&M yearbook volume 8 jan-dec 1960. and all the dogs pictured working were of a very similar look to the dog the OP posted.

as far as acting? does a "gamedog" have to ~show its ass~ in the show ring to be considered "real"? if a dog doesnt, what does that mean? ... absolutely nothing.
as far as "quality of dogs shown in the ADBA" -have you been to a show, or are you just going by whats pictured in the gazette? if you have been to a show then you realize the fault in your statement...there are many different flavors being shown these days.

 

and let me clarify something- i dont consider many of these dogs "boyles" dogs, but moreso ~boyles~ dogs.

sure, they may be heavy on "boyles" dogs, but they arent directly "boyles" dogs

example....
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=301858
not a "boyles" dog, nor a "BST" dog, but heavy on both.

 

I have been dealing with performance dogs for the past 8 years and I can see the shy skittish look that everyone is speaking of in this post and I have seen the dog in person and he is shy and acts a bit spooky so to speak. However as far as game goes I have no clue about that. I have a little Jack Russell bitch that is real spooky aroung strangers but she will whoop the rest of my Jack russell's real quick. I personally do not like working with shy or spooky dogs you never know when the pressure is going to get to them and they are going to curr up on you. Just my 2 cents.

 

This is my boy Tug I have no clue who Boyles is or what a Bolyles dog is suppose to look like. I have been researching Pitbull pedigrees for a short time and when I study tugs pedigree I thought the white head probably came from Dirty Mary. Allot of the dogs in FL from that line have white heads. Here is a link to his Pedigree and Picture of his father that I was told was from all Boyles dogs. ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [119481] :: GHK'S JECKAL

 

heres that look ben i know wat your talking about i get that responce to when i say i look them inthere eyes to see that firer always thought it was just me , im sure it probably means nothing in the grand scheme of things but its a pleasure to see that look of ready ..

 

GHK LMAO :dogdrink:

 

I agree with Ben. The "Eye of the Tiger" isn't just a song. There is no way of knowing, but I have noticed that when they are looking through there opponent that is exactly where they plan on going. You don't know until you know, everything else is just an opinion.
You show dog people can not compare a fiery dog to a proven bulldog. U just can't unless that dog has been there. Alot of dogs prove to not be true to the standard at the end of the day. The difference b/w Queen Of H and the dogs in the conformation ring is simple she walked the walk. Your dogs may just be talking the talk. I go to conformation shows sometimes, so you can't stereotype people. Some of the best dogs I have owned wouldn't have gotten a second look out there. Its something fun to do, but it has very little to do with the standards that created this breed of working dog.
Yall are comparing Model Race cars to Nascar race cars. Looks don't mean diddly, its whats under the hood not how pretty or how loud your motor is. Or, Models to Porn Stars... Keep the models and give me the profesional workers...
Basically, yall are comparing apples to oranges...:dogdrink:

 

how else could voodoo be bred if hes consistantly throughing dogs who look like dirty mary and andy capp and nitro (his sire) and penny sue? and his offspring and there offspring,.. the voodoo dogs are extremly consistant!

they ALL look alike. there is always going to be some sore ass spreading rumors that a pedigree is not true.

I have worked with and spent a lot of quality time with many of his grand kids.

they ARE out there. otherwise I dont see why so many people keep the blood and keep going back for more.

again just because you cant "read" whats on the net because people are not "putting it out there" doesnt mean they are not out there

 

His sire not the suspect it's his mom that the breeder was saying is not bred that way.. He can throw dogs that look like his sire his top side is at said or tighter.. The dam is the one the breeder nd owner was shouting out was a scatter bred bitch..

 

my friends pup
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=354583

 

i swear sometimes you have the comprehension level of Pit #5


the dog posted is my dog

 

run a club? no, but have attended ADBA shows for the past 20 years.
the only difference, by and large, is the blue dogs and more bully types showing up
as i stated earlier, you get several different types at these shows, and have for years.

 

I think his question was do you know BST personally? I had a few Dirty Jersey dogs before I knew J and I had a few Bullyson dogs before I knew B or F.. So I think his question was do you know BST personally.. I don't think he was being offensive and I'm not jumping on you but before the thread goes to hell maybe we can keep it positive.. Some good posts so far?

 

Quickfire...I will have to disagree with you on this one man, I dont see the shy skittish or spookyness you say you see when you see him. Everytime I see this dog at the show he seemed confident to me.