Breeding every heat

i understand what your saying OKC82. don't know any dogmen sticking there bitches that much. not even the peddlers lol. we've always bred old bitches at least 3+ years of age. fuck what folks say they need to earn the right to breed around here.

 

thats right ben!! its about producing superior dogs not just producing.young stupid motherfuckers!! lol

 

To the yabble babble douche that wants to run his yapper. This isn't about reasons why to breed, earning the right, or any fucking thing else you want to run your uneducated know nothing mouth about. Fact of the matter is you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. It's a proven fact that if you're going to breed a bitch more than once it's beneficial to the bitch to do it back to back vs waiting when you're strictly talking about the health of the female. Then spay the bitch and let her rest.

So before you want to go slinging around fuck you and fuck them and blah fuck blah fucking blah, you might want to get a clue as to the medical facts vs your stupid ass shit. Ohio State University is hands down the top reproductive university in the country. Saying you don't give a fuck what a dr says shows just how damn dumb you are when it comes to the health of your dogs. The man has more degrees in K9 reproduction than you have fingers and toes yet of course you know better with all your wordly experiences. Get a grip and quit making yourself sound like a fucking idiot.

 

fuck all them young stupid motherfucking experts with all their edumacation LOL

 

Yeah what are medical facts vs what you can decide for yourself in the back yard.

40 years as a professor at Ohio State College of Veterinary Medicine and now elected VP of the AVMA. DVM, MS in veterinary medicine and surgery, PhD in reproductive physiology, and past president of The American College of Theriogenologists.

Yeah what does he know about reproduction. What was I thinking. Old dog men and certainly idiots posting on game-dog know more than this man....who by the way is anything but young. LOL

 

In my country a bitch can only have her first litter after 18 months and 3rde heat.... After every litter the law forbids you to breed the next heat.. She needs to recover from her litter

 

forty years of vet medicine and ohio state this and that gotdamn boogie you sound like you posted the thread on this. why so defensive? you must have a man crush on this guy. tell me is he circumsized or not cuz im sure you know.

 

:confused::confused:HOW WILL THEY KNOW:confused:

 

Omg this thread lol

 

Yep it' getting better,,,,,lol....

 

Are you fuckin Retarted

 

Defensive? If stating facts is defensive, well then I'm defensive I guess. I simply pointed out you have no fucking idea what the fuck you're talking about after you come strolling in the thread acting like a know it all who actually doesn't know much at all. I post what I know, not what I think. If pointing out that man knows more about breeding k9's than everybody in this thread put together will ever know means I have a man crush, well you must have a dumbass crush because all you're pointing out is how fucking little you know about breeding.

I guess if trying to discredit the man with that lame ass post is the best you got, well that's pretty weak. Forty years, ohio state this and that. You spill ignorance out of your mouth faster than anybody could possibly take it in.

Old wives tales, repeating shit you've been told, or babbling shit you THINK you know, doesn't make it fact. Fact of the matter is all other things aside, only considering the health of the female, it's better to breed it back to back. It's medically proven you can try to dispute it all you want. You're simply wrong and that's that. I'm not talking about a bitch earning the right to be bred, waiting to see if the offspring are worthy before you repeat, nothing other than considering the health and well being of the female. It's a FACT back to back is better for the bitch.

There's idiots who think herbal tea cures cancer too, lol. Ask them if they wish they had take chemo and radiation 5 minutes before they are about to croak.

 

Have to agree.. average life is 4-7 years in the wild also ...They catch shit eat shit and die of cold and everything and anything ..In the wild they figure the more they produce betters the chance to continue the blood line because they are all short lives...

 

Wait a second guys there is nothing wrong with breeding back to back if the female is in good health. And just because you breed a bitch back to back doesn't mean she will have 10 litters back to back. Some might only breed a bitch 3-4 times and that's it. Some don't even breed a bitch passed a certain age. And some might breed a bitch as long as she is able both physically and mentally. Every situation is different certainly though medical research by top reproduction specialists means something wether you agree with it or not. Not everyone who breeds back to back is greedy or a peddler I happen to know folks who breed this way and will only get 3 litters out the bitch and then she is retired. If you are providing top notch care for your pregnant female including proper nutrition, suppliments, and the female is healthy having litters back to back is not going to hurt her.

 

I don't think he's retarded for asking legit questions. There is obviously medical proof by top medical professionals to back up what this poster is asking so how is he retarded? The way you learn is through exp and by asking questions. I wouldn't call this person retarded for asking a genuine question.

 

This thread is amusing thats like me arguing with a cardiologist about how he should operate on my heart. There is a reason why someone goes to medical school to become a doctor for 10+ years and then continues their education even after becoming lic and practicing in their field. The medical field is constantly evolving medical research is how we advance. There would be no cure for cancer or treatment for other illnesses without medical research and studies. We rely on these experts. Did any of you arguing with these reproduction specialists go to medical school to become a doctor? Have any of you participated in medical trials and studies with different breeds of animals to document the results for breeding back to back having a true comparison on the long term effects for back to back breeding on a female vs every other heat or every few heats? Do any of you who breed test your animals fully prior to breeding when I say test I mean blood work xrays ect ? Or do you just assume a bitch is healthy based on what she looks like physically on the outside prior to breeding her?

 

NO lab studies or reading of research can ever replace hands on paying attention to the condition of your bitch. Their needs are as they occur, not etched in stone, nor cookie cut. You just have to know what you're seeing when you monitor their condition, paying close attention to both the ups and downs of each side of this subject, and do accordingly at that particular time. The well being of your good bitch is in YOUR hands, using YOUR good sense and decision making, and not anyone who publishes a study.
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about says it all! every dog is different and what works well with one won't necessarily work well with another. yeah, it's better for their uterus to do back to back, but some dogs don't 'bounce back' as quickly as others. in the wild dogs cycle once a year, not twice. also their life span is much shorter. pros and cons to every side... again, should be based on the individual dogs, NOT what some "study" may suggest.

 

@sadieblues i hear what your saying and no im not a dr. i recognize the fact that they go to school and alot have specialized training in certain areas. of course you can breed a young healthy bitch back to back but dude said every cycle. all i was saying was thats not healthy especially when she gets up in age i know alot of folks will breed an old bitch last year my partner bred a nine yr old bitch and she had six healthy pups. but that was her fourth and last litter over her lifetime. i was just saying there is such a thing as a bitch being over bred if you care about your dog why do her like that. i wasnt tryna take shots at boogie or his boyfriend, hell i love to suck dick so what do i care. just stating my opinion a few times i have seen an older bitch not make it tryna have pups i personally wont breed a bitch past six but thats just me i have a medical or scientific shit to back me up thats just what i do.

 

I agree with every bit of that post TDK. My problem was with somebody strolling in and throwing terms like peddler, greed, and throwing a blanket statement over breeding in general when what they are saying is simply not medially correct. I tried to make it clear over and over I was only referring to the health of the female, and while I didn't go into particular things such as exceptions, one would HOPE that if somebody is breeding they would take t hose things into account when even considering a first breeding, much less a second one.



Good post.