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Discussion in 'Health & Nutrition' started by wally81, Mar 7, 2007.

  1. wally81

    wally81 Pup

    i have a girl in my class at college and she thinks she wants to breed her pet...not proven and not shown or anything to that nature just a pet, and i want to try to explain to her that it is not a good idea.

    so what i would like help on is some site one time i seen about just one litter... or something like that.
    thanks
     
  2. Suki

    Suki Guest

    give her this list. it is a list of animals that were killed in shelters in NC, throughout various counties, 11 shelters, of which didn't report on this. The animals were euthed, yes, because other idiots thought it was also a good idea to breed their wonderful animals as well!!!!!:mad:
    1. Gaston County (Gastonia) 7947 total killed
    2. Cleveland County 6806 killed
    3. Iredell County 6358 killed
    4. Davidson County 6211 killed
    5. Randolph County 6090 killed
    6. Wayne County 5893 killed
    7. Caldwell County 5552 killed
    8. Rowan County 5522 killed
    9. Catawba County 5345 killed
    10. Burlington County 5309 killed

    11. Wilkes County 5144 killed
    12. Union County 5114 killed
    13. Brunswick County 4610 killed
    14. Rockingham County 4554 killed
    15. Craven County 4517 killed
    16. Sampson County 5072 killed
    17. Johnston County 4050 killed
    18. Columbus County 3782 killed
    19. Nash County 3116 killed
    20. Granville County 3049 killed
    21. Stokes County 2924 killed
    22. Beaufort County 2894 killed
    23. Lincoln County 2866 killed
    24. Henderson County 2832 killed
    25. Bladen County 2768 killed
    26. Chowan/Gates/Perquimans combined 2462 killed
    27. Franklin County 2397 killed
    28. Person County 2268 killed
    29. Montgomery County1637 killed
    30. Alexander County1580 killed
    31. Davie County 1470 killed
    32. Mitchell County 788 killed
    33. Watauga County 494 killed

    did you know that: In 6 years one female dog and her offspring can be the source of 67,000 puppies?????

    as of yesterday on "pet Finder" there were:
    15,000 Pits listed on Petfinder.. 114,230 dogs homeless

    she can read these as well...
    <CENTER>[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]SO YOU WANT TO BREED DOGS DO YOU?[/font]

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    [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Are you sure? These are the true experiences of fellow breeders. Breeding is NOT for the faint of heart.
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    [/font]
    [/font][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Breeder #1 ~ Breeder #2 ~ Breeder #3 ~ Breeder #4 ~ Breeder #5 ~ Breeder #6 ~ Breeder #7 ~ Breeder #8 ~ Breeder #9 ~ Breeder #10 [/font]
     
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  3. wow That is a lot of dogs killed now who makes the money off of those dogs being killed.
     
  4. wally81

    wally81 Pup

    suki i know you would come threw for me and thanks i am just trying to help this girl who just wants one pup.....


    any health issues or any thing like that will help... maybe coming from not just me will stop her from doing this.
     
  5. Suki

    Suki Guest

    more:

    http://www.brightlion.com/inhope.aspx

    Confessions of an ignorant breeder

    SO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE FUN TO HAVE PUPPIES ?

    Our boxer, Lupe, was just turning two when my husband brought up the idea of breeding her. I was just beginning to learn a thing or two about the ins and outs of raising dogs, having just gotten on the internet a few months before, and at first I resisted the idea, but then I gave in thinking maybe this is something I might be good at (being a breeder) and could maybe go into. Ignorance is bliss, but it doesn’t last.

    So, with my limited knowledge, and feeling like I knew it all, I started preparing Lupe for her mating. I got all her shots up to date (ah…the things I have learned since then), we found her a good-looking mate and voila! she was ready! I knew what days were right for breeding, being all-knowing, you understand, about breeding. And sure enough, within the month, we knew she was expecting. Her pregnancy went well, and the due date arrived, and although it was a little nerve wracking, she delivered just fine. Breeding was a cinch!

    Within a week of having her puppies, Lupe started having a discharge. She got very skinny and I was quite worried about her, but got her back into shape with the old Satin Balls recipe. Her puppies seemed to be thriving….the vet said the infection was venereal passed on by the male. Mistake number two…. number one was breeding her in the first place. We could not do anything about the disease because she was still nursing so would have to wait to treat it.

    Three and a half weeks went by and I started one feeding of gruel a day. One morning I awoke to a crying pup with a distended stomach. I called the vet and he came and gave the pup an enema, saying it was too soon to feed them. I forget what else he did, but he assured me all would be well and left. Three hours later I had a dead puppy. I insisted on an autopsy, because with my "vast" textbook knowledge, I thought it might be herpes, in which case all the pups would probably die. The vet did the autopsy, found red spots on the kidneys and agreed that it probably was herpes. Thank God he was wrong…if it had been, the whole litter would have died, but the rest of the puppies thrived. Lupe had to have twice-daily injections for two weeks.Now, I knew it was very important to find good homes for the puppies…I

    Now, I knew it was very important to find good homes for the puppies…I was in love with them, but tired of all the poop and the feedings and they were almost eight weeks old, so time to leave the nest. I wanted to keep the male, Spike, but he was huge and I did not have room for another big dog. He was such a cutie. But I digress. The vet called and said he had a friend who wanted three puppies. The man came over and I inquired as to why he wanted three puppies. He said one was for his mother, and one for his sister and Spike would be his. I warned him about breeding siblings and he assured me that this was not going to happen. He came and visited several times and I went to his house once and checked it out. All seemed to be on the up and up. I had done my duty or so I thought.

    This was close to Christmas. Well, he took the three puppies and about two weeks later I saw an ad in the paper with this man’s phone number. The ad said that he had all sorts of breeds of puppies for gifts for Christmas. This was my first experience with a puppy broker. He now has a thriving business. I wanted to buy the dogs back, but he was asking twice what I had sold them for and I just couldn’t do it. I was heartbroken and guilty about what I had done. Who knows what happened to these puppies.

    Daisy, the littlest female, stayed with me till she was five months old. I had to give her to my husband’s best friend because he had given me Lupe and the deal was he would get a puppy in return. He had her grandfather. He promised me that when she came into heat the first time, she would come stay with me so she would not get pregnant (people here do not spay their dogs, unfortunately) . Well, the other day, he sheepishly told me that Daisy, who just turned one in September, had had six puppies, two died, and that he did not realize she was pregnant. One of the puppies is a boxer (the grandfather’s) and the others are who knows what. So Daisy is getting supreme care, isn’t she?

    See-- the thing about breeding is that you are responsible for all these little lives. Just because they leave your home and go on to other homes does not absolve you of that. I will never do this again because I can never be sure that one of my pups is not abandoned, mistreated or worse. I did not even mention the other part of breeding---being sure that you are passing on a healthy line---because I didn’t know about that in those days. I have no idea if they have some defects that will show up later on down the line. And that, too, is irresponsible. So if you want another puppy, just like "Fido", get it from a responsible breeder and neuter/spay it….leave the breeding to the experts.

    Joya Bocock

    good link about disorders:
    http://www.upei.ca/cidd/intro.htm
     
  6. Suki

    Suki Guest

  7. CrazyK9

    CrazyK9 Top Dog

    Well, I think we can better help you realy get through to her if you let us know the motivation behind her wanting to breed. Does she want another dog, like the one she already has? Is it for money? Does she just think it would be fun to have pups around? What?
     
  8. simms

    simms CH Dog

    Suki, you rock!
     
  9. Verderben

    Verderben CH Dog

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  10. Phebes

    Phebes Guest

    no one makes money...it costs the counties million every year to dispose of homeless animals
     
  11. Michele

    Michele Guest

    Suki...you are the best!
     
  12. Here send her this and tell her that oviously you care for dogs and as a dog lover there would have to be a really good reason why you would be against breeding......Tell her to not be seflish [​IMG]
     
  13. Suki

    Suki Guest

    yeah, unless you're PETA employees=then you can just dump 'em for nothing!!!! :mad:
    :rolleyes: ....
     
  14. coolhandjean

    coolhandjean CH Dog

    Which means the County residents pay for it.
     
  15. wally81

    wally81 Pup

    and i quote " i just want one pup off of her" ... i was like omg let me get you a lil info on that one pup!!!!;)
     
  16. Suki

    Suki Guest

  17. ericschevy

    ericschevy Big Dog

    DAMNNNNNNNN, That was something else..LOL
     

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