Help with Raw

I own a 16month old apbt, she is 30lbs hog fat lol. I want to start her on raw but I cant seem to figure out a proper 7 day diet for her. If you could help me design a proper diet it would help my dog an I out alot . PM me is you dont want to post on board.

 

The internet is full of information good and bad on feeding RAW. What I have learned is all dogs have "basic" nutrition requirements and then on the other hand all dogs are different in how they process some of these items. For example, some people will feed mackerel from time to time but I learned the hard way that if Nikki eats it she will gain a pound or two and retain water so no mackerel for her during show season.

Ohpitbulls, gave a wonderful example of a simple RAW diet and he is right it is a lot cheaper and less mess. More prep time but there are ways around that also. Then you have to know what you are wanting to achieve with the RAW diet. Do you want to maintain, trim off a few pound or put on a few pounds?

I suggest for anyone starting out to write everything down. Write everything your feeding, feeding time and the condition of the dog during the process. This will let you know how to tweek to get the desired results you are after. But the main thing to keep in mind is balance, finding the right balance of fat, protein and carbs that work for you dog and do not forget activity level, the more the dog works the more protein and possible fat it will need...

My suggestions for easier prep time is as followed....
Go to the Dollar store and buy the biggest canning or stock pot you can find, this will allow you to make large quantities of the "base" carb mixture. Invest in some measuring cups and a scale.

I buy large bags of brown rice, look for chicken on sale I love to get buy one get one free bags of leg quarters. I put one bag in the large pot and cook the piss out of it remove all chicken strain the stock to make sure there are no little bones, measure the stock and put it back in the pot with the proper amount of rice for the stock I have on hand. De-done the cooked chicken everything goes back in the pot but the cooked bone.

Once the rice is done...
Then I add can greens, yogurt, sweet potatoes, blue berries, pumpkin, greenbeans and any other thing I may want to add. I use a 1/2 cup measuring scoop and place the mixture into freezer bags. I personally feed 1lb of RAW meat so I weigh all meat and place in freezer bags. I keep a bread pan in the bottom of my freg to thaw all meat on. Feed one and take the next days out place on pan to thaw.

Look for sales, always check your discounted meat section, after the Holidays are great times to buy pumpkin, I stock up every year after Thanksgiving, pumpkin is also good for upset bellies. I try to feed 5ozs of organ meat at least three days a week, look for sales on chicken liver, hearts and even beef brain. Call around to your local stores ask the meat department if they can order you larger amounts at a discounted price. I was surprised to learn if I ordered 50lbs of leg quarters or thighs I could get them at almost 1/2 off.....

Okay, I have rambled enough

 

Sounds good, but its called "raw" for a reason. There's no need to cook the chicken, you are boiling all the nutrition out of the chicken.

 

I do feed RAW...I just use the cooked chicken to add extra fat and protein to my base. I like using that better then just plan water to cook my rice in and it always comes in handy if I have young pup with an upset belly

I have also used veg stock to cook my rice in....

 

How does this sound 1lbs leg quarter mixxed with 1 cup of cooked brown rice, 1/8 cup of yogurt 1/4 cup of mixed greens 1/8 cup of lard 2 sof boiled eggs an 1/2 a muti- v ? When should i add the organ meet, how much organ meat is ideal an what is the best organs to use ?

 

ohio - i don't know which side of the nasty of live in, but if you go up to centerville there is a GFS (Gordon Food Service) Foodstore behind the dayton mall off 725. i think they still sell 4 gallon buckets of boiled eggs already shelled, relatively cheap in the store. and they keep for nearly an eternity (a bucket lasts us about a month at work, but i've never had them sit on the shelf longer than that). i'd google the store and call and ask if they have them there in stock.

 

im in Dayton atleast ones a month ill check into that. Thanks

 

Most say 10% of their diet should be organ meat.

 

instead of feeding chicken everyday would it be ok to feed gound beef two times a week ?

 

Yes it would...also don't forget whole frozen fish. Check PM

YIS

 

I feed my own mixture i get beef lungs kindney liver ect muscle meat and pig necks spend bout 3 hours chopping it up all up and bag in freezer bags and get fish heads salmon cod anything really and bag them all once a month and just have to take out a bag each night very handy but i starve once sometimes twice a week also chicken when i can get whole chickens cheap mix and match so they dont get bored of it always freeze salmon at least 24hrs to kill any parasites . http://www.rawlearning.com/rawfaq.html

 

im buying premade raw food.... comes with organs, muscles and bones all crushed up.... it costs me about 80$ for 32 lbs of it... im trying to find a cheap butcher to grind bones for me so i can start making it on my own

 

I've been feeding raw for years,and this is what I do. 4 times a week they'll get a chicken leg quarter the other 3 days they might get a turkey leg or beef cubes.Once in awhile I'll feed fish or pork.Now with the meat I'll mix in a spoonfull of cottage cheese, an egg..shell included (2-3 times a week),a couple peices of chicken livers,hearts and gizzards(3 times a week) a couple pieces of carrots and once in awhile some greens. I feed beef liver at least once a week.I also feed beef kidney and whatever other organ meats I can get.Green Tripe is also another good thing to feed,if you can get past the smell.I go to the butcher and get fat scraps and add some to the feed.You can get it for next to nothing. I dont really measure anything cause I been feeding raw for quite sometime and just eye ball it. Havent had any problems feeding raw.

 

If I feed bonless meat what can I use as a supplement to make up for the bone ?

 

Why would you want to feed boneless meat?

 

And only 1/2 of that 10% should be comprised of liver, don't make the mistake many people do and feed ONLY liver for your organ meat.

 

Double post sorry!

 

Why would you feed boneless meat? You are taking a complete diet and making it nutritionally unsound by removing the meaty bones. If you need to add a supplement due to removing something, it is a sign that what you removed is a needed part of the diet. Raw meaty bones are an important part of the whole raw diet package - regardless of if you feed prey model like I prefer or BARF model.