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HSUS and Avid microchips

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by Pitless2208, Aug 16, 2009.

  1. Pitless2208

    Pitless2208 Big Dog

    (I apologize if this doesn't belong here mods)



    -Permission to crosspost-

    Avid Chips and HSUS

    When you sell your puppy with an Avid microchip and
    they register the chip in their name they will receive information to
    insure their new pup with "Pet Plan". This insurance plan information
    is sent out with Avid information and is affiliated with HSUS .


    The other disturbing news we heard is that Avid is now mandating their
    distributors turn over their databases daily of ALL sales of Avid
    chips. When asked if this info would stay private, concealing the
    buyers information, they would not give an answer. In all the years
    MPBA has been with Avid they have never been asked to turn over their
    buyer info.


    Missouri Pet Breeders, who distributes AVID microchips will
    be using HomeAgain chips and for those of you who are purchasing from
    us, we are working with Schering Plough and our distributor to offer
    chips at a price that is in line with the AVID pricing. If you are
    purchasing AVID chips from some other source beware that HSUS will now have your information (name, address, phone).

    Barbara L. Schwartz
    Delegate St. Louis Collie Club
     
  2. rallyracer

    rallyracer CH Dog

    good to know.
    - mine have Home Again
     
  3. StopBSL

    StopBSL Top Dog

    WOW. Good info. . . make sure you are using home again is the lesson here. :eek:
     
  4. gh32

    gh32 CH Dog

    Sounds like it's time to boycott Avid.
     
  5. Robber

    Robber Big Dog

    I guess they could be lying, but here is a rebuttal to the issue:

    Avid Rumors
    http://ofodc.<WBR>blogspot.<WBR>com/2009/<WBR> 08/avid-rumors.<WBR>html

    In the last 48 hours Avid has been at the receiving end of a barrage of
    email and telephone calls all relating to an assertion that Avid data
    related to microchips is being provided to HSUS and that some of Avid's
    business activities provide money to HSUS.

    The information we are getting is provided to us from a few of the people
    who have been receiving this, apparently for at least several days now. A
    common claim includes the false assertion that " If you are purchasing Avid
    chips . beware that HSUS will now have your information (name, address,
    phone)."

    Let me state categorically Avid's policy and position with respect to the
    claims raised specifically and the issues reached indirectly.

    Avid does not provide data to outside organizations. It is only used within
    our operations for immediate recovery purposes. No information whatsoever
    that Avid acquires, processes or holds in its database is provided directly
    or indirectly to HSUS. None of the business activities, including PetPlan
    Insurance, provides any money to HSUS, either directly or indirectly. Any
    representation that Avid information is made available by any method to HSUS
    is false.

    This has the characteristics of a disinformation storm motivated by
    commercial aims. One reason I believe this is so is that Avid was never
    contacted about these sorts of claims before they began to be disseminated
    in forums and blogs in the internet.

    It is only because of the forwarding of some of these emails, from what I am
    sure is a very small portion of the number of people actually having
    received this information, that we have become aware of it.

    Some of these are breeders that Avid has been doing business for 10 years.
    Even from those who have been aware or Avid's practices over the last 25
    years of business, and have been very helpful and taken effort to verify
    information, nonetheless are writing asking us to reconsider our position,
    not realizing that this assumes the truth of something they actually want to
    ask about.

    Some minority of people were kind enough to take the time to write us. Some
    of them even made phone calls and tried to independently get information and
    provided that to us. That takes a lot of time. We appreciate that. They had
    very constructive tones in their emails. That is very useful and helpful. We
    also appreciate that. But even there, they end up implicitly taking the
    position that what they heard is true and we should change our minds. One of
    the quotes is "We hope that Avid is taking this seriously and will
    reconsider their position." Of course we take this seriously. It is at the
    core of our principles. Our position has always been for privacy and for
    recovery. That is what it is. So there is no reconsideration to take place.
    Even in the most forthcoming and constructive email, which was very long,
    you end up with implicitly saying 'You are doing it. Please change your
    mind.'

    One of the writers says - and I think it is perfectly fair - "If I do not
    receive a response, I will assume it is all true." I think that is a fair
    position, and that is why I have to respond.

    I have had to respond, I have to say, before I have really gotten to the
    bottom of it all. Because there are deeply mysterious and puzzling things
    about this. It is still murky. We are kind of in this windstorm and there is
    a lot of dust and confusion around, but the center of the storm seems to be
    a completely mistaken, utterly false idea that Avid passes its data onto
    HSUS either directly or indirectly. So that part has to be addressed, and we
    are still going to pursue a better understanding of everything else that is
    going on.

    I feel very strongly about this and it drives my emotions. My apologies for
    this windy and disorganized email, which is meant to be conversational more
    than documentary.

    Before closing, I have to say that it angers me just as much that good
    people are left in the position of having repeated, in good faith and from
    what they believe to be reliable sources, information which is literally
    false. Such is the rumour mill. To those I say that I value your good name
    as my own. In cases where this has caused venom to be directed to us, I say
    I approve of the passion, but ask that it be directed where it belongs.

    Peter Troesch
    VP Avid Identification Systems
    ____________<WBR>_________<WBR>_________
     
  6. StopBSL

    StopBSL Top Dog

    HM. . . interesting. . .

    Maybe a ploy by another chip company?

    Weird. . .:confused:
     

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