apbt/platterdale terrier cross

patterdale'sare gamedog in their own right. a shouldn't be bred to apbt. if you looking for a crazy cross www.chimerakennels.com

 

i think all bull sh.. to the side it would take endless breeding to complete any thing like this and also have u guys heard they were a part of are breed like they were crossed with ofrns just heard it and wondered thanx

 

I remember a while back Ca Jack was thinking about breeding a male patterdale to one of his small females.

 

Ok, all bullsh*t to the side: we have MORE THAN ENOUGH mutts on this earth with hundreds of thousands every day with those remaining left to wander the streets. We do NOT need any more.

 

CA Jack is a moron. Enough said.

Regards,

B

 

For curiosity's sake, here's a pic of Sanchez, the Pitterpat I was talking about in my last post. Again, don't agree with deliberate crossbreeding, but he's a neat little dog.

 

WHY Jack a Moron ?? Ok so he is not the Easiest dogman to get on with..
But you cant take away his Knowledge/Breeding for bulldogs..!!

 

He stole tips and tricks from other people, made a cheesy book, and peddled them to people. I also don't believe he's been honest with a lot of dogs he claims great things about. You can feel however you want about him but it won't change my views. Honesty makes a man and I don't deal with people that I don't consider such. I would never deal with him. I think you can put two and two together.

Regards,

B

 

why would anyone want to mix the two? what characteristic of a platterdale cross would you want to accentuate an apbt?

 

One thing to consider. Patterdales are bred (when bred tradionaly) just to work. And when a breeder needs a dog to go to ground after dangerous prey (badgers) they do breed some Staffybull into their lines.

But, its done by true Patterdale breeders for a reason. If you look around the net at Patterdales you'll notice they look a LOT different from dog to dog and thats one reason why. They do whatever they need to get the desired product for the work they need.

I can't think of any good reason why a Bulldog man would add in Patterdale.

 

.....Exactly......... you get better Terrier with the help of Bulldogs....but its imposible to bred better Bulldogs with the help of Terrierblood.Thats why the APBT is a Bulldog and not any kind of Terrier.

 

actually there is historic evidence of terrier blood in are dogs.and who is a peddler?anyways it is said they were pure bulldogs and it is also said they added they white english terrier and some manchester terrier it was said they added gameness when adding terrier blood but i belive people bred anything to make dogs work!

 

You all crack me up, you don't think this was done 100-200yrs ago???? Look at old photos, and you can clearly see, smaller pits, that are a bit more racy, their blood flows in the veins of your APBT's guarenteed. Here's one I bred, 22 lbs. and owned by one of my friends. Unless your matching your dogs, she's as good as any on here. Just think about that last statement.....she looks like a pit, acts like a pit, just smaller. Perfect for the house, easy keeper, don't eat as much, and not as imposing to your nosy neighbors that are scared of the big bad pitbull. What can your dog do that she can't????? Check out Colby's Spring, she's the same size as him, maybe he had some terrier blood in him??? Now don't you all eat me up at once. Mouser

 

these dogs would not last i dont think in the bocks

 

U said act like a pit looks like a pit etc what about putting it in a box with a pit u will see a big difference I'm not saying fight your dog I'm just saying there's a difference

 

who is ca jack? Why would he want to cross the two

 

Now we will never know that will we, if you had one that small, well your guess is as good as mine. Anyway we all know that is illegal, and is no real way to test these game dogs these days:rolleyes:. It would be easy to get on here and do the whole internet tough guy thing, my dog is tougher than yours, LOL! Truth is you can't legally test your dogs, so your opinion is no more valid than mine on what a cross-bred dog could do. All I'm saying, is that they have the same personality, and looks, all the things I love about pits, just in a smaller easier to manage package. Just think of it like this a hundred years ago you seen a lot more small dogs, and looking at the pics they weren't as uniform as they are today. That lets me know they did and do have other things mixed in them. There was no DNA testing, and probably not many chainlink pens to ensure exactly who the sire to every litter was, yes they were tested, and any that fell short were culled, but that don't mean other blood couldn't have slipped in. Let me pose a question to you, if you introduce foreign blood, and breed it down 5X's what amount of that foreign blood is left??? Theoritically they are 1/32 to 31/32 ratio, right? But if you bred for a certain trait could you keep that coming up, and breed for it alone? Look at the little terriers, someone has already said they add bull blood to give their dogs more grit, well you don't know working terriers, but anyway it's done often, and I know a guy that has been breeding working terriers in England for 20 yrs. He originally bred some bull blood into his terriers, and then stopped, only breeding their offspring to gain the bull traits he wanted, and lose the ones he didn't like, like dog aggression. 15 or so odd years later, his dogs look just like small pits, with narrow chest to get to ground. They are reknowned for their hardness, and are the size that work for fox in his part of the world. Broaden your picture and accept the past these dogs have, or at least the possibility of what I'm saying. Reguardless, I have a plan and I plan on carrying it out to see what happens, and yes I plan on making sure my pups are placed in good homes, as best as anyone else can assure. Our biggest problem started at the turn of the century, when all the big name dog men started getting too old to do anything else, or too greedy and sold to the general public. Had they not did that probably no one on this board, save a few, would even know what a pit bull was, I for one am sorry they did, but also glad I had the oppurtunity to own and love this amazing breed of dog. Personally I don't feel like I'm putting anything in them that ain't already there, at least my dogs will be healthy, athletic, have the proper conformation to do what they were originally bred for, unlike these barrel chested bow legged dogs that can't walk a 1/4 of a mile without passing out. Fire away, but do go easy, I'm old and soft. Mouser P.S. I won't be calling my dogs Pit Bulls.

 

You said it time and time again....Hunter use Bulldogblood to get better hunter, or in other words to get better fighter. And thats nothing but the trues. If you put Bulldogblood in the genpool you get awesome fighter regardless if you mix them with sheepherds, poodles or Terrier because Bulldogblood is the essens of fighting the essens of gameness. Your Idea is this: Bulldog +Terrier = A better fightdog then the (real) Bulldog. Thats a mistake. Bulldogs have it all....they need nothing from Terrier. In fact Terrier need something from Bulldogs (like many many other breds ). Look Mouser, I try to make it as easy as possible.....how many litter from short haired Terriers have you seen in wich was a long haired one to find? Yes right it happens often... I know that. And how many long haired Pitbulls have you seen? I tell you one thing...before they crossed Bulldogblood into Terrier there exist no short haired Terrier.....try to read it...i know its hard because of my spelling...lol..by the way...maybe 3 - 4 % Terrierblood if we talk about the real Pit stuff....if you get close to the game, strange blood is rare to the vanishpoint....trust me the genetic task cleans the backyard.

 

Wait a sec name me one bulldog that would be game without terrier blood? any?

 

Prove that the bulldog isn't adding the gameness and I'll try. As I've said before, these dogs were mixed with terriers when they had to become smaller and enter the rat pits. This made the dogs more tenacious and fast due to their size and shape but that doesn't mean that they are more or less game. Some terriers might be dog aggressive but once that situation is reversed and they start taking punishment there is no guarantee they are in it for the long haul. Only when ratting was stopped did they start to pit dogs against each other in large scale events. I'm sure it happened before that but not the extent that was to follow. There is no proof that either or changed the dog in any way except possibly size and stature. Working dogs are combos of whatever makes them successful. I've actively hunted with go to ground terriers and I've seen all sorts of mixed terriers accomplish their goal. These animals work in groups many times. Bulldogs were plenty game to be bear and bull baiting. How would you not consider a bulldog game that took its death taking on a bear or a bull? I'd love to hear what you call that drive and determination. That's the kind of gameness I appreciate in my dogs.

Regards,

B