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A Long Read

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by benthere, Feb 11, 2011.

  1. benthere

    benthere CH Dog Staff Member

    What are your thoughts on this article?

    Lately I have been plagued by the thought that the pitbull as a breed is in deep trouble. It seems almost no one really understands them, especially some of the people who profess to love them. Peoples’ views on pitbulls run the gamut; from they are all viscous beasts that need to die, to they are all poor helpless victims that just need some love. It must be difficult, if not impossible, for the average person to reconcile such diametrically opposed viewpoints. Who is right and who is wrong? I could not figure out why the whole thing was gnawing at me so badly until it finally occurred to me: The truth has been completely lost somewhere along the line. None of the prevailing views of pitbulls are correct, although there is some truth in all of them. The problem with pitbulls is ignorance-from all sides. This breed is in deep trouble because very few people fully understand them: not the people who profess to love them, nor the people who want to see them all killed and not even most dogfighters and show dog enthusiasts. My years with pitbulls have taught me that a pitbull is an enigma that is not easy to comprehend. What I am about to say is probably going to make me very unpopular with everyone. The truth hurts, but the truth can also set you free.
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    To gain an accurate understanding of these dogs, we must first set aside all our preconceived notions and most importantly our emotions and approach the subject with a clear and open mind. For it is emotions that give us these false views. On the one hand we have fear- all pitbulls are dangerous and viscious. On the other we have misplaced sympathy projected onto an animal – the dogs are just helpless victims. Objectively, what pitbulls are is animals bred for a specific purpose. What does this mean? Well, we can start by looking at the concept of selective breeding. All breeds of dogs, and many other species of domestic animals, were created by humans. Man realized that animals that acted a certain way or performed a certain function were useful to him. Perhaps, they guarded his home or helped him catch food. In any case, he kept the ones that were best at their jobs and bred them together to hopefully get more dogs like them. As knowledge of breeding and genetics improved so did man’s ability to breed animals for specific tasks. Beef cattle are bred to gain weight fast on as little feed as possible. Sheep are bred to produce the most abundant and finest wool. Horses, like the thoroughbred, are bred to run as fast as possible and dogs have been bred for a myriad of functions from retrieving, pointing, hunting, trailing, guarding, to just being a pet and let us not forget - fighting.
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    How does being bred for a specific purpose affect an animal? First of all, they tend to be the best at that function. Secondly, they tend to enjoy that function and it comes naturally to them. Third, they have a desire, verging on need, to perform that function. Lastly a higher percentage of animals bred for a purpose are going to be likely to perform that purpose than the general population because they are genetically inclined to do so. This can be a problem when the animal is taken out of an environment where it can perform said function safely. A harmless retriever might chase tennis balls all day. But without sheep, a herding dog, might take to herding children and nipping at their heals or a sighthound might chase the neighbors cat or small dog and kill it. These unfortunate situations are brought about by human misunderstanding of the dog’s natural urges. If a dog has certain drives and no proper outlet for them, serious problems can arise. If humans understood the dog’s needs, they could perhaps provide them a positive outlet for these urges, or better yet, not get a breed of dog that is unsuited for such situations.
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    I can recall an example of misunderstanding a breed from my youth. I grew up riding show horses and it was the general consensus amongst the show set that Thoroughbreds were crazy out of control horses. As I have gotten older I have become a fan of horseracing and now realize that Thoroughbreds are just horses bred for a specific purpose. That purpose is to run flat out - not to be a child’s saddle pony. Given the opportunity to perform their chosen task, by people who understand what they are about and know how to handle them, a majority of them are quite sane animals, but as saddle ponies they are often extremely dangerous. This does not make them crazy, or vicious, it just means they are out of place.
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    So, as for pitbull dogs…. what were they bred for? Fighting. What will they be inclined to do? Fight. Pitbulls are the best at what they do because they were bred for it. Since they were bred for fighting, they are genetically inclined to fight. They have an inclination/desire stronger than the average dog to fight because it has been selected for in their breeding. No matter what the media says, you cannot train a dog to fight another dog. Sure you can train a dog to attack a human or encourage it to attack other animals but there is not a dog trainer alive who can teach a dog to fight if it does not want to. Perhaps you can train him not to fight (although I suspect that might be difficult) but you cannot train a submissive animal to fight. They either have it or they don’t. That is why breeding is so important. If it wasn’t, any dog could be used to fight, because surely there are dogs that are more aggressive, stronger, more athletic and can bite harder than pitbulls. The difference is that the pitbull wants to fight. He was bred for it. So, even if they have been bred for generations from non-fighting dogs, all pitbulls retain remnants, in varying degrees, of the desire to fight.
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    So, contrary to what the rescue groups and petbull owners will tell you about pitbulls, they are dogs that will fight, dogs that are good at fighting and have a strong urge to do so. (Of course there are exceptions as no breeding program is 100% successful. Some Thoroughbreds don’t want to run, some retrievers won’t retrieve etc). This is why I have been uneasy reading rescue blogs that say pitbulls are no different than other dogs. That is flat wrong. Your neighbor’s poopsy-doodle was not bred to fight, to attack another dog relentlessly until it wins. To not acknowledge this fact is dangerously ignorant and could have grave consequences for an unsuspecting adopter or his neighbor. Now before all you pitbull supporters get hysterical let me say that this is not an unmanageable situation. It is nothing to be alarmed about. Pitbulls are not psychotic bloodthirsty beasts, but they are also not poor helpless victims forced to fight, they are just dogs who have a very strong propensity to fight and any potential owner needs to be well aware of this and not ignore it.
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    Denial of this simple fact can have some of the worst unintended consequences for the breed. People who do not believe that their sweet dog is capable of serious mayhem are unlikely to take adequate precautions in regards to the safety of other people and animals. Failure to acknowledge a pitbull’s full potential is perhaps the gravest injustice of all that is done to the breed, because this type of ignorance/blindness is single handedly responsible for all pitbull attacks.
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    Rescuers show a gross misunderstanding of the breed by adopting out puppies and young dogs under three years old. On average most pitbulls decide that they want to fight by about 2 years old. Although, some never fight, some are just about born fighting and some may wait until they are 5 years old to decide that an occasional brawl might be fun, but at some point almost all pitbulls will get into a fight. And the pitbull owner had better be prepared for it. There is no one alive, not even the person who bred the dog, that can say with any certainty that a pitbull won’t someday decide to fight. In fact, in one blog a rescuer said in one breath that pitbulls are no different than other dogs and then in the next breath said they can’t even be trusted not to fight on day 750. So which is it? Remember it is in their blood, it is what they were bred to do and they all grow up and turn on at different ages and times. That is not to say that pitbulls cannot make wonderful pets for the right person, but as a rule it is the wrong dog for the job. Should we buy an Indy car to drive our children back and forth to school? The rescue people need to realize that pitbulls are not the same as other dogs. The opinion of anyone who recommends a fighting dog as a pet should be considered suspect. There are hundreds of other breeds of dogs that will do the job better. Perhaps, the only pitbulls that should be adopted out are the old retired pit veterans that have gotten a belly full of fighting and really just want to relax on the couch.
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    Something else that bothers me is how rescuers say they love the breed and systematically kill the ones who do what the breed was created for. They evaluate rescued pitbulls and the ones who overtly want to fight are destroyed and the ones who are failures of the breed, who have no interest what so ever in fighting are rescued. I am not saying this is not the best thing to do for society at large, it is. But, to love a breed is to love the very best examples of that breed. They say dog fighters are ruining the breed, but fail to fully comprehend that dogfighters created the breed and without them it would not exist. Do we condemn the artist while coveting his art? That is in essence saying you love something for what it is not. They may love dogs…..but they do not love the breed.
    On the other hand it is this love of dogs in general that is the strong suit of the rescuers and petbull owners. And for this I commend them. A breed that is so frequently neglected and abused as the pitbull, definitely needs people who are going to care for them and lavish them with affection and love. They clearly see the gentle and loving nature of the breed, they just need to be more aware of the fighting potential of their sweet little doggies.
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    Now on to the pitbull haters, the people who say pitbulls are all vicious killers who will turn on you and therefore should be destroyed. Of all the dogs I have owned, including some very quirky ones, not one has ever bitten me intentionally. The one time I have ever been bitten was entirely accidental when I was playing tug of war with a dog and he lunged to grab the rope and he accidentally bit my wrist. He let go immediately realizing he had bitten me and not the toy. I have handled sick dogs, injured dogs, old dogs, frightened dogs, mean dogs and dogs who were unfamiliar with me and not one has ever bitten me. I do not believe that there are many people who handle other breeds that could say the same.
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    As far as keeping them on chains making them aggressive (a claim the animal rights groups repeat vociferously) I have given away dogs who were raised on chains to people (experienced dogmen) with children and almost without exception they have all been good with children and made better house dogs than dogs that were raised as pets. It is a also a known fact that the pitbull, especially on a chain, is one of the easiest dogs to steal because they are so trusting of humans. In fact the majority of pitbulls that I have known who were people aggressive or have bitten people were raised as house pets. They are animals out of place with no outlet for their genetic drive. Pitbulls are very willful animals and as house pets this can lead to problems. A dog on a chain knows his place in life whereas a housedog often tends to become protective and territorially aggressive.
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    The pitbull haters allow their fear to overwhelm their objectivity. They cannot see any of the positive aspects of the breed. They want to trample on people’s rights to liberty and the pursuit of happiness. But, at the same time, pitbull owners cannot trample on other peoples rights to the same. There are far too many irresponsible pitbull owners who do not respect their neighbors’ or other peoples’ rights to not live in fear of their dog. I do not think anyone should have to live in fear of someone else’s dog. So, at least the attitude that all pitbulls should be euthanized is erring on the side of caution and public safety.
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    In his book Man Meets Bulldog, Frederic Maffei states:
    “Whatever the anti-dogfighting pitbull fancier out there thinks of dogfighters, it is nevertheless quite likely that the dogfighter’s understanding of the pitbull dog is going to be truer than theirs.”
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    This is so, simply because the dogfighter knows what the breed is capable of and he holds no illusions about it. He knows all the myriad facets of the bulldog and is aware of the subtle clues the dog gives when he is itching for a fight. He knows how to prevent fights and he knows how to keep the dogs secure and out of trouble. It is not the dogfighter’s dogs that are roaming the street loose attacking people and animals. The dogfighter is an expert at taking the added precautions necessary to keep pitbulls out of trouble. Where the dogfighter (some not all) fails, is in the empathy department. He often fails to see the gentle, loving side of the breed and is only concerned with the pitbulls’ prowess as a fighter. His lack of compassion for his little warriors is often appalling. Aggravating this potential lack of empathy are draconian dogfighting laws that have forced dogfighters to be crueler than they might otherwise be and it is the dogs who suffer for it. Dogfighters who might otherwise take their dog to the vets or give them a second chance at life as a pet cannot do so for fear of running afoul of the law. The horror stories about dogfighting from HSUS and other groups have become self-fulfilling prophecies.
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    Equally as myopic as all these other groups are the show and breed preservation people who are enthusiastically trying to put a positive light on something most of them do not fully understand. They mean well and their efforts are to be applauded, But, how can you preserve a breed, even physically, if you have no experience with the purpose for which the breed was created? That would be akin to trying to build a Ferrari when you have never even driven a car and have no clue how one should handle or how the engine should run. You can read all you want about them and look at pictures of them in books but you simply do not have the first hand knowledge or experience to do it. And once you have built what yout think looks like a Ferrari, how do you know if it can really perform, go fast and handle well unless you try it? For this same reason someone who has never fought a dog can never truly understand what is important to a fighting dog and what isn’t. Slowly but surely, you start to put emphasis on the wrong things and the breed starts to change. It has happened with all working breeds….the pitbull will not be an exception.
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    The pitbull problem and how to solve it? It seems almost no one really understands them. There are too many of them and too many ignorant and irresponsible people own them. What to do about it? Education perhaps. But, all the breed education tends to be lopsided because no one really wants to tell the whole truth. How would the truth look? Suppose one were to say something like this: A pitbull is an extremely strong dog with a propensity to attack other animals, so it must be kept securely on a chain behind a fence when not inside the house. It should never be allowed off leash or be trusted not to fight or left unsupervised. If you are willing to take all these precautions and give it an outlet for its strong prey drive, such as some form of strenuous work, then the pitbull can be a loving and sweet pet. I suspect that might encourage more people to own them for the wrong reasons and facilitate Breed Specific Legislation - but anything short of this is dishonest. The media, animal rights organizations, breed organizations, dogfighters, show dog enthusiasts and the breed rescuers are all making the problem worse. None of them can acknowledge the full truth about bulldogs because that would be giving ammunition to their enemies. The more the pitbull is in the media, the worse things will be for them. Because all pitbulls retain genetic remnants of their past, perhaps the worst thing that can happen to the breed is to have a bunch of people, who are ignorant of what the breed is capable of, adopt them because they think they are all poor innocent, loving, sweet victims. In an ideal world the perfect pitbull owner would be someone with the sensitivity and love of a rescuer, the caution and fear for public safety of the anti-pitbull groups, the breed knowledge and handling skills of a dogfighter and the enthusiasm of the show and breed preservation people. Are you that person?
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    I will close with a quote from Martin in his essay ‘On the Pitbull’ from his website www.martinsk9formula.com

    “I am (now) comfortable saying that the Pit Bull IS PROBABLY A DOG VERY FEW PEOPLE SHOULD OWN!!! In fact, unless you are willing to incarcerate your dog, this is not a breed to consider. By imposing an inmate type of atmosphere you are truly being responsible. The Pit Bull needs to take a long nap!!! IT IS TRULY OUR LOSS!!!”
     
  2. wardogkennels

    wardogkennels Top Dog

    Good post Benthere. I couldn't agree with you more. It is very well written also:)
    Thanks for sharing.
     
  3. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    very good posting. only part i disagree w is him saying pitbulls are different than other dogs. they are flesh n blood exactly like other dogs. they were selectively bred for a different task but that doesnt make them different. all breeds differ somewhat
     
  4. ohpitbulls

    ohpitbulls CH Dog

    I totally agree man, great read. Thanks for posting.
    Now if we can get people to realise that ther are certain RESPONSIBILITIES that come with owning this breed, an proper understanding of the breed will make you a more reponsible owner jmo. I learned a long time ago the hard way
    that no mater how well-mannered you think your Pit Bull is there is a chance for your dog to do thing that it was bred to
    do an thats to fight another dog, if I would of had the proper education an
    knew what I know now I would have been more responsible an took the proper precaution to prevent the accident .
    .
     
  5. Best description I've ever come accross. Great post. If only more people were educated with this info we would all be a hell of alot better off!
     
  6. As we like'm

    As we like'm Big Dog

    Very good read... thanks for sharing!
    Allthough Pit Bulls are made of flesh and blood, your read can almost be used as a "savety precautions-read before usage"
     
  7. jacko

    jacko CH Dog

    .jmio but i think he means.there isnt another breed of dog that is man bred to fight to the end ,and like it !!!
     
  8. bjh

    bjh Pup

    Sweet read man...i appreciate it...
     
  9. redrumdog

    redrumdog Top Dog

    Well said.Very true.Why do the ones that say they love the breed but don't understand the history of the breed?
     
  10. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    i understand what he meant and i love this article. I saved it as a pdf ;) If you read the article you will get his point but i dont want someone to be able to look through this and pick out the part where he as they arent like other dogs. They will twist that into some fuel for another bsl movement. I would rather him say there are jus like any other dog that has a high drive to do what they were bred to do. Do you see what im saying? This is a great article, that is the only thing i would change and even without the change its something everyone should read.
     
  11. ShakaZ

    ShakaZ CH Dog

    Damn good read... and btw they aren't like any other dog. They are, for the most part, more dog than most dogs. Perhaps too much dog for most people.
     
  12. Laced Wit Game

    Laced Wit Game Yard Boy

    Best rant on the breed I've prolly ever read, I may print this out and start handing them to petbull owners n rescue groups that come into my work
     
  13. Awesome article. We've all said most of these things at one point or another. (maybe not so well put) Every new owner needs to know what they are getting into. Don't get a Rottweiler and expect him love strangers. Don't get a Beagle and expect him not to chase rabbitts. And don't get a Pitbull and expect him to get along with other dogs. If only we all selected our breeds for function instead of look we would know what we were getting.
     
  14. ganja

    ganja Big Dog

    does someone know who has written this article?
    it's a great read was thinking of translating it and it would be nice to have a source to add and to ask if I can :)
     
  15. benthere

    benthere CH Dog Staff Member

    The person who wrote it wishes to remain anonymous. But, if you want to give credit, you can list the author as "A Dog Woman at Large" as they have written other articles under that name.
     
  16. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    Good read, I've always wondered how one could love the breed but not want it to be a Representative of the true breed.

    If your up shit creek without a paddle, chill out and float back down!
     
  17. YellowJohnJocko

    YellowJohnJocko Big Dog

    I can say without a doubt I thought exactly like the wrong people in my younger years about the pit bull. It has been a somewhat long journey, though it seems like it flew by lightning fast, but as my experience with the breed has gained. I to have to agree with this....that said, I can not say I would like to see them take that long nap. That is a bit to extreme, and I feel a life without them would be incomplete.


    But in a world where everyone wants to force their views and opinions on others, there may be no other solution.
     
  18. puppdlr

    puppdlr Pup

    Author shows her limited education and bias'. Mentions "show people" and neglects "registries".
    It is not "news " that when a breed becomes"popular"it goes to hell and eventually crashes,perhaps to raise it's head later,but more than likely vanish to be reconstructed later?

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [305960] :: F&E'S CLANCY

    what is this?. Please stick to Maf as he doesn't waste words.
     
  19. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    I'll say as a youth I was brought up around game dogs that were used for the original purpose. But it took me a few years to see the love that a lot of men have for there dogs. Petbull owners don't get it because most of them never had that hound that loved it so much he or she will go to great lengths just to get a piece of another hound. My second apbt thought me a lot about the mind set and the will and desire for combat with other dogs. Excellent points made about all classes of working dogs as well. I think the cruel and inhumane thing is keeping a dog from doing what he loves

    If your up shit creek without a paddle, chill out and float back down!
     
  20. mccoypitbulls

    mccoypitbulls Underdog


    Care to elaborate on what you are saying ??
     

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