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Cost of Farming Chicken or Rabbit

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Sabrina, Oct 18, 2011.

  1. Sabrina

    Sabrina Big Dog

    As many of you know, we're trying to "get it together" so that we can feed the dogs raw.
    We already bought a deep-freeze, it seems the hardest aspect is finding a source of reasonably priced meats.
    We aren't going to be dealing with any Red meat as two of the dogs have digestive issues and one has a heart condition.

    Our plan was to feed the dogs whole chicken/turkey/rabbit and the cats whole mice.
    However, we're having a very hard time finding a place to buy meat.
    The cheapest place in town that sells whole chickens would cost us $450 a month, that's just for the dogs! :eek:
    I thought that feeding raw was supposed to be financially comparable to feeding a quality kibble! Ugh!

    So we are going to shop around and do what we can. We're trying to figure something out.

    But, I had an idea this morning....

    Would it be cheaper for us to farm our own food for the dogs?
    I've got no idea how much that would cost...

    My aunt has a farm (which we can see, looking downhill from our front yard) that is protected under a Grandfather Clause, as long as she has animals there, the farm can stay. It's been there forever and my aunt loves it, the only thing is she is senior and has a bad back so caring for farm animals is very difficult and she doesn't want to do much of it but has to keep some animals in order to keep the farm. She has four dairy cows and some laying hens, she boards animals (goats/sheep, ducks, donkeys, etc) off and on for local farmers all the time.

    I think that she'd be more than willing to make us a deal so that we could farm some chickens or rabbit on her property.
    The more animals the better and I could help her out with some of the work she needs done.

    Anyways, what do you ladies and gentlemen think?
    I've got no idea as to the cost of farming chickens or rabbits, nor what it would cost to have them slaughtered.
    I know that I could care for them as I cared for both as a kid with ease. But the financial aspect is what I'm wondering about......
    Any input? :)
     
  2. skratchr81

    skratchr81 Big Dog

    i dont know what the #s would be exactly on the chickens but the rabbits are cheap as hell. much cheaper than the meat market. the chickenscant be that bad either. seems u could save on your own grocery bill as well. i think youve got a pretty good idea
     
  3. Sabrina

    Sabrina Big Dog

    Thank you skratchr :)

    I think it is a pretty decent idea, I just need to do more research and ask my aunt.
    I am kind of leaning toward rabbit more or less....

    I won't save any money on our own groceries though, my man and I are both vegetarians. Haha
     
  4. Mr.Revolution

    Mr.Revolution CH Dog

    Sounds like a win win for u and your aunt.Id say give it a try like scratch said and i agree it should be cheap enough.Rabbits sex like well rabbits and the feed is pretty cheap plus u can feed them fresh veggies if yall grow them and really close the loop. lucky u.Hope she says yes
     
  5. Sabrina

    Sabrina Big Dog

    Thanks :) I am pretty excited, hopefully I can get this plan going!
     
  6. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    we did it pretty much as you describe for awhile...i had a bunch of bulldogs and a few fila basileiros...i raised rabbits and chickens....it was easy for awhile....i would raise and freeze and it worked out just fine....it just got old....it was like it was just one more thing to do in a days time...it was a good idea until i factored in a 50-60 hour work week....i went back to a more basic raw diet ow really similar to Ca. Jack's recipe in the pit bull bible....now it is about 80% raw and one or two days a week is kibble....especially on those 14 hour days...but if you have the time it is an excellent idea....and it will add to the trouble but will soften the blow to the wallet....US1
     
  7. SlaughterHouse

    SlaughterHouse Big Dog

    I have raised chickens and rabbits as well and find it cheaper at the end of the day to just buy meat at the store. The cost of grain that it takes to feed the chickens and rabbits if you break it down is costing you way more at the end of the day.
     
  8. rallyracer

    rallyracer CH Dog

    How many dogs are you feeding where you figure monthly cost is $450?

    the long and short of it? If you are casual farming, you will spend more, end of story.
    I spend around$80 in feed, for about 60 birds, per month. I would need to harvest 75 birds per month to feed mydogs.
    Even if you bought $3 chickens...that is $305 per month
     
  9. SlaughterHouse

    SlaughterHouse Big Dog

    I agree rally, it cost me almost as much to feed my birds as it does the hounds. The truth is that there is no cheap way to feed raw.
     
  10. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    chicken quarters are like 59 cents a lb at walmart and u can find them cheaper than that if u really shop around. raw is only as expensive or complicated as you want to make it if you as me.
     
  11. Sabrina

    Sabrina Big Dog

    Yeah I'm gonna check out Costco, they're supposed to have good prices.


    I will need about 140lbs of food a month for the dogs, the cats will be eating whole mice from the pet shop.
    When we called the main local slaughterhouse they said that would cost a lot and gave us a price for whole chicken/turkey, which would cost us roughly $400-450 for 140lbs, at something like $3/lb.

    I don't eat meat (haven't since I was 12) so I don't have any fucking idea what I am doing! Haha
     
  12. northdogger

    northdogger Big Dog

  13. RRL

    RRL Top Dog

  14. cliffdog

    cliffdog Top Dog

    pet shop mice ain't cheap, I highly recommend you look online. my sister orders mice online at like 150 a time, they take up most of the space in her fridge, lol.
     
  15. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    i found it to be cheaper money wise to raise than to buy but for me the extra time invested was way costlier...the rabbit food was not all that expensive....got a lot of produce that was headed to the dumpster for them and the chickens as well....the chickens were not caged so they got minimal feed from me and sort of fed them selves....for me the hassle was finding that day to package and freeze for later....now if the rabbits and the chickens are caged and fed straight from a bag i can see where the cost would be a lot...US1



     
  16. SlaughterHouse

    SlaughterHouse Big Dog

    I agree with you slim that if they are allowed to range the cost to grow them would be minimum. The problem is its hard to let the chickens and rabbits run loose with the neigbors dogs, foxes, coyotes and everything else with a mouth seens to like the taste of chicken and rabbit as well. Also like you said the time it takes to package and freeze them you would have a full time job right there. I would check around in your local paper or feed store for people selling rabbits and chickens alot of times you can get rabbits for $5 or less per head and extra roosters for free. And you should not pay over $.60 lb. for meat from a slaughter house. And thats alot cheaper than $3 per pound.
     
  17. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    .59 x 140lbs is about 83 dollars, jus feed quarters instead of whole chicken. You will never get dog food that cheap
     
  18. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    i feed a lot of quarters...and a lot of backs...i hit this local butcher about once a week and get a box of scrap everything....i make a veggie mix about once a week....and then kibble on a few of those long days at work....it is not perfect by any means but it fits my budget, both the financial budget as well as the time budget....US1
     
  19. F.D.

    F.D. Top Dog

    If the cats will take frozen/thawed mice, I would also suggest buying from a supplier that breeds for reptile owners. You can find a lot of them on kingsnake.com. I breed my own mice, but they have a strong odor. They're pretty easy to breed though. A freezer in the garage/basement is a good thing when you acquire large amounts of raw food! I saw a show that proved coyotes pretty much survive on a mouse-only diet in the winter in some areas. Mice are considered to be complete nutrition because the animal eating them gets the skeleton, meat, organs and skin.
     
  20. Sabrina

    Sabrina Big Dog

    Thanks for the input, everyone!

    Dream Pits, I was thinking about that.
    Apparently the Costco here has the best deals for quality and price when it comes to meats, so I am going to check there. They also sell supplements (which I have a long list of) that are cheaper because you buy a larger amount, so hopefully I will save money with that too.

    I really can't believe the prices that the slaughter houses and butchers are charging these days.
    Gas and everything else is quite high right now, though....

    Yeah, Paul, the two main pet stores in town are very pricey, however the pet shop near out place actually isn't bad for price.
    24 mice is something like $12.99 so they're just over $0.50 each.
    I know a guy not far from here who breeds for reptile food and sells it slightly cheaper than the store but he's really not what I'd call "reputable" and I don't like how his animals are treated so I'd rather spend the extra little bit knowing that the breeder who supplies this pet shop is better.

    I thought about breeding mice or rats but I simply don't have the room for it.
    The rabbits or chickens can stay outdoors on the farm (if my aunt lets me) but rats/mice have to be kept inside.
    I live in a 1 bdrm basement suite so the two pet rats we have are already "pushing it" for space. In a bigger place, I would definitely go for it, I know a lot about rodents (as well as breeding them) and I wouldn't mind the effort, we are just very lacking in space ATM.

    This is exactly why I went with mice for the cats.
    I am not really a cat person so I don't know a lot about them but I figured that mice are obviously an option and a friend from a cat forum I am on said she feeds 1 mouse a day to each cat and said that mice are optimal nutrition for them. Which only makes sense....

    I already know my cats will have no problem switching over to F/T mice, they usually eat at least %60 of the mice that they kill.
    Here is one we found this morning that the kitten caught and was dining on:
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