emill?or slat/carpet ?

hey fellas i have a question on sum i know i could get an answer here,since ma slatmill is out of order and the carpet mill is cool but you know,now the ? is for the past 2 days ive been using the e mill and i guess it works ,so its powered by the mill itself and not the dog wat speed should be good and the length of workout?this thing has how many calories burned timer and pulse ,but i jus wanna know if they will feel that more less than the other mills ,i have all 3 jus im digging the emill cause it dont sound like a rollercoaster at 5 a.m and the carpet has more mass builder so any one know?and another thing thanks

 

There is no way you can put A time on mill work. (my opinion) every dog will be different for the most part, I like having A fast smooth mill, but I don't rely on them as much as most do. Then again it depends ! A hard question to answer, a lot of my style is probably (outdated) but still works well for me! It's all about making your charge the best he can be on showtime, and like I said everyone is at least slightly different! Just take it slow until you get the feel! GL

 

Alot of people are lazy these days and take the easy way out...
Emills are good for lazy people who if smart enough control the speeds, walk them run them and cool them to a nice trot, just to walk them down...
Nothing beats a well built free spinning slat, no resistance is the key to cardio...
Emills have a bit of resistance, but are really easy on the paws and joints...
Carpet mills have good resistance making them good for strength traing, but should be used the least, and secondary to cardio work...
Silacone spray lubricant under the carpet helps it spin more free...
Incline in any mill also plays a big part in working on cardio or strength...
Nothing beats hand walking, bicycling and a flirt pole that doubles as a springpole...
I dont think the city folk that use emills to walk thier dogs are better off than those country folk that get out on those long roads...

 

^^^^ I agree!! I use A 20ft. lead, by the time I walk 5 it walks 6-8 depending, when I lived in Galveston I had an old truck granny gear and A cup of coffee! A davet arm about 6ft. away from the truck and A trot /cantor! I have seen dogs to messed up on to much mill work (just my opinion) they all loved the isolated stretch of beach! Now A trail at 6000 ft. and A four wheeler!

 

As always good post...
Will you share how you use the carpet mill and how is it built...
My old buddy Dirty and his buddy buikt the "dirty gringo" carpet mill, out of heavy duty lumber like the old colby mills, for the platforms they used a expensive 1/2" thick 4'x8' sheet of teflon cut in fours for four tread mills, add spray silacone lubricant under the carpet and it was super slick with minimal resistance and as free spinning as they come, add incline for extra strength but not cardio...
A good pair of metal rollars at each end beats the old wood wire reels,lol...
Most carpet mills Ive seen have a coarse platform making for drag which intels the strength aspect...

Shhhh...about the flirt...lol...

 

Yeah Slim really A fast carpet or slat, I guess it's just what your the most comfortable with! I mentioned in another post A friend had A carpet mill that really impressed me!! Just as fast as my slat!! I was thinking of building one of those, the thing I liked was NO NOISE!! LOL I think it would be for me great to have both!! I keep the rub table on the back porch, but NO WAY the mill just A roar!!! Actually saw A cat mill being used decades ago I think it did more harm than good (at least that one) to heavy to much momentum he swore by it because some guy in 1928 used one or something like that!! Your right about those flirt poles I hate to see people using those......makes the hound to jumpy! :-)

 

...Great post Slim and Trotline...

 

Great thread folks! Conditioning is a favored aspect of dog ownership for me as well. It’s what I do. For me the reward is in the bonding which results from getting dirty with the dogs.

Don’t own a mill. Can’t comment on its value. Maybe I’ll get one for my 80th birthday. I run/hike with my 2 girls daily, 3-10 miles. Flats, hills, intervals, straight walking - all are beneficial. Variety of pace and terrain.

Fortunately both my dogs (German Shepherd/APBT) have genetically high prey/hunt/fight drive. Therefore I can leverage my home made flirt poles to great effect. Excellent device for building burst strength, speed, agility, and bite coordination. Dog always gets the hide; tugging to follow. I also use a German jute bite wedge for close in rounds of tugging. Allows me to feel the bite strength.

Both marvelous athletes. Strong lean runners with crushing bites.

 

I disagree. Emill imo is superior to traditional hand walking. With the emill I remove the distractions and hazardous that are out on the road like trash, glass, smells, other animals, the dog stopping every 5 minutes to mark everything. With the emill I can set an incline and speed and keep that dog walking at a constant clip. Much more efficient.

 

Yes, hazards abound. And I am guilty for glossing over the challenges with tandem roadwork in my previous post.

Sudden distractions have led to several tumbles, an asphalt face plant and idiots' loose dogs getting bit. Vehicle near misses. Dogs ain't robots; they will react to various stimuli no matter how well they heel, or despite the correction from the prong collar. High drive dogs especially.

The loose lead run with side heel is optimal but difficult to sustain under distraction. Slight tension with the dogs forward for me has been overall safer, and often gets me to pick up the pace.

 

I'll have to disagree here. If you have a dog that loves to pull, handwalking IMO is hands down above what any emill can give you. Dog is pulling, stopping, hard left, hard right, and then they nail the end of the leash for miles. Ah fun times. In the end it all comes down too a matter of time and how much resources you can devote to each dog.

I only care for one dog so handwalking for me is a no brainer. We develop a bond and both of us get a great workout.

 

I got one that lays in the ditch every time a car passes, you'd swear he's been hit by one in a previous life or something

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Mine is a mixture of both. If I can find a wide enough path without much vegetation on either side he is a pulling machine. The problem is getting him there, and all of the bushes, walls, rocks, lightposts, and hydrants on the way.

 

Emills are for Lazy people? LMAO....So what about any other mill or conditioning tool are they for lazy people also? LOL It seems your lacking in actual hands on experience in utilizing an emill since you believe that a emill has more resistance then a slat mill which is TOTALLY FALSE.


The Emill is the most resistance free mill compared to any other mill because on the emill the belt moves the dogs feet while on any other type (carpet,slat) of mill the dogs feet moves the belt.


Emills are only easier on the joint depending on what type of emill you buy as most up to date emills are built in with shock absorbers, but the old inexpensive ones are not. If you buy Gamblers top of the line mill with all them hydraulic shock absorbers then it will be just as good but that will cost you a shit load of money lol.


Not all carpet mills are built the same or of same quality as there are some carpet mills that can turn as easy as some slat mills. There are some that use carpet mills exclusively as there primary source like one member who posted on this topic, I think his name rhymes with Jim. LMAO


Nothing beats handwalking? Sounds like a clich* LOL. bicycling can be very dangerous for BOTH the dog and the CONDITIONER. During a keep one needs to AVOID as much dangers as possible or you could end up paying the FORFIET. LOL


I also agree with every thing Nausious said about the hazardous conditions when walking one out in public and the emill being better utilized TIME WISE, to get the most out of your dog as when hand walking some dogs will stop every 5-10ft to smell/mark something or any other distractions that may be around like wild or stray animals.


One great thing I can say about handwalking is it is really good for EMPTYING out a dog. lol