english bull terrier muscle tissue?

I was talking wiith my vet today and as we were speaking an ebt passed virtually draging its owner along with it we got to talking on muscle power I was of the opinion that the apbt is pound for pound stronger than an ebt and he vice versa so what do you guys think?

 

i know ebts have if not the highest amount of pound for pound muscle in a dog breed, then there in the top ranks. as for power or anything of that nature it all depends on ped and training.

 

But doesn't more muscle mean more power?

 

yeah but for how long the biger the muscles the more oxygen it needs muscular stamina depends also on the stamina of the lungs, heart, and blood vessels. Without each of these working properly, you muscles will not have maximum stamina.the body needs to utilize oxygen. Oxygen breaks down glycogen which provides energy for the body the biger the muscles the more oxygen it will need i dont think any dog can top a APBT pound for pound

 

Shouldn't weight pulling records give you a pound for pound answer?

 

Pound for pound it's probably a Jack Russell or Patterdale.

 

What about the stafford....?

 

Checked out a weight pull site, APBT's dominate in all their weight classes. The best in the lightest classes were PitaPatts and Jack Russell/Chichua. No EBT's or Staff's mentioned.

 

that will hardly be surprising if it was an American site. have you looked at any UK # European sites ?

 

I think staffies would dominate the ebt as there desire to please is stronger as oposed to the ebt what's in it for me mind set

 

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IWPA Record Holders

WHEELS/NATURAL SURFACE​

<TABLE border=1 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 sb_id="ms__id6611"><TBODY sb_id="ms__id6612"><TR sb_id="ms__id6613"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id6614">Class
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id6617">Dog
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id6620">Handler
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=34 sb_id="ms__id6623">

Region​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=50 sb_id="ms__id6626">

Pulled​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6629">Breed
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6632"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id6634"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id6635">Location/Year
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id6637"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id6638">20
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id6641">Sanchez
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id6644">Trent Vance
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=34 sb_id="ms__id6647">

4​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=50 sb_id="ms__id6650">

935​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6653">Pitter-Patt
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6656"><?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = ST1 /><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id6658"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id6659">Kalkaska</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE sb_id="ms__id6662">MI</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> (2005)
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id6664"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id6665">35
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id6668">Two Dogs
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id6671">Larry McGee
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=34 sb_id="ms__id6674">

3​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=50 sb_id="ms__id6677">

2000​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6680">American Pit Bull Terrier
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6683"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id6685"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id6686">Greeley</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE sb_id="ms__id6689">CO</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> (1997)
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id6691"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id6692">40
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id6695">Gracie
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id6698">Damon Keels
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=34 sb_id="ms__id6701">

6​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=50 sb_id="ms__id6704">

2135​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6707">American Pit Bull Terrier
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6710"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id6712"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id6713">Kalkaska</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE sb_id="ms__id6716">MI</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> (2005)
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id6718"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id6719">60
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id6722">Stone Cold
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id6725">Collin Cox
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=34 sb_id="ms__id6728">

6​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=50 sb_id="ms__id6731">

3050​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6734">American Bulldog
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6737"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id6739"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id6740">Kalkaska</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE sb_id="ms__id6743">MI</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> (2005)
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id6745"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id6746">80
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id6749"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id6751">Dixie</ST1LACE>
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id6754">Daryl Anderson
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=34 sb_id="ms__id6757">

4​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=50 sb_id="ms__id6760">

3810​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6763">American Bulldog
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6766"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id6768"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id6769">Kalkaska</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE sb_id="ms__id6772">MI</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> (2005)
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id6774"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id6775">100
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id6778">Chevy
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id6781">Darryl Spauldin
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=34 sb_id="ms__id6784">

4​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=50 sb_id="ms__id6787">

4900​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6790">American Pit Bull Terrier
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6793"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id6795"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id6796">Cheyenne</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE sb_id="ms__id6799">WY</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> (2001)
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id6801"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id6802">120
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id6805">Maynard
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id6808">Derrick Exstrom
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=34 sb_id="ms__id6811">

9​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=50 sb_id="ms__id6814">

4045​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6817">Rottweiller
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6820"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id6822"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id6823">Greeley</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE sb_id="ms__id6826">CO</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> (1997)
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id6828"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id6829">125
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id6832">Neebles
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id6835">Mark Landers
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=34 sb_id="ms__id6838">

9​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=50 sb_id="ms__id6841">

3980​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6844">American Bulldog
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6847"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id6849"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id6850">Evans</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE sb_id="ms__id6853">CO</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> (2007)
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id6855"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id6856">125
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id6859">Crowbar
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id6862">Mark Landers
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=34 sb_id="ms__id6865">

9​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=50 sb_id="ms__id6868">

3980​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6871">American Bulldog
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6874"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id6876"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id6877">Evans</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE sb_id="ms__id6880">CO</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> (2007)
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id6882"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id6883">150
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id6886">Rochelle
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id6889">Debbie Lee
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=34 sb_id="ms__id6892">

7​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=50 sb_id="ms__id6895">

3620​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6898">Saint Bernard
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6901"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id6903"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id6904">Kalkaska</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE sb_id="ms__id6907">MI</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> (2005)
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id6909"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id6910">Unl
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id6913">Sly
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id6916">Frank Wells
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=34 sb_id="ms__id6919">

9​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=50 sb_id="ms__id6922">

5395​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6925">English Mastiff
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6928"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id6930"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id6931">Greeley</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE sb_id="ms__id6934">CO</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> (1997)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

WHEELS/ARTIFICIAL SURFACE​

<TABLE border=1 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 sb_id="ms__id6941"><TBODY sb_id="ms__id6942"><TR sb_id="ms__id6943"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id6944">Class
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id6947">Dog
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id6950">Handler
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=34 sb_id="ms__id6953">

Region​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=50 sb_id="ms__id6956">

Pulled​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6959">Breed
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6962"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id6964"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id6965">Location/Year
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id6967"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id6968">20
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id6971">Harry Houdini
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id6974">Eli Landers
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=36 sb_id="ms__id6977">

9​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=48 sb_id="ms__id6980">

810​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6983">Patterdale Terrier
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id6986"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id6988"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id6989">Spokane</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE sb_id="ms__id6992">WA</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> (2004)
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id6994"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id6995">35
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id6998">Willey Makett
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id7001">Anita Persinger
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=36 sb_id="ms__id7004">

4​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=48 sb_id="ms__id7007">

2030​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id7010">American Pit Bull Terrier
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id7013"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id7015"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id7016">St. Louis</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE sb_id="ms__id7019">MO</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> (1995)
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id7021"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id7022">40
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id7025">Lucy
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id7028">Eli Landers
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=36 sb_id="ms__id7031">

9​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=48 sb_id="ms__id7034">

2090​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id7037">Patterdale Terrier
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id7040"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id7042"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id7043">Spokane</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE sb_id="ms__id7046">WA</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> (2004)
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id7048"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id7049">60
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id7052">ILB Long Gone
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id7055">Larry McGee
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=36 sb_id="ms__id7058">

3​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=48 sb_id="ms__id7061">

3130​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id7064">American Pit Bull Terrier
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id7067"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id7069"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id7070">Leavenworth</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE sb_id="ms__id7073">WA</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> (2000)
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id7075"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id7076">80
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id7079"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id7081">Dixie</ST1LACE>
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id7084">Daryl Anderson
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=36 sb_id="ms__id7087">

4​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=48 sb_id="ms__id7090">

3810​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id7093">American Pit Bull Terrier
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id7096"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id7098"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id7099">Spokane</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE sb_id="ms__id7102">WA</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> (2004)
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id7104"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id7105">100
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id7108">Chevy
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id7111">Darryl Spauldin
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=36 sb_id="ms__id7114">

4​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=48 sb_id="ms__id7117">

4700​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id7120">American Pit Bull Terrier
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id7123"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id7125"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id7126">Leavenworth</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE sb_id="ms__id7129">WA</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> (2000)
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id7131"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id7132">120
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id7135">Ox
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id7138">Ron Poitras
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=36 sb_id="ms__id7141">

5​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=48 sb_id="ms__id7144">

4400​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id7147">American Bulldog
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id7150"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id7152"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id7153">Leavenworth</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE sb_id="ms__id7156">WA</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> (2000)
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id7158"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id7159">125
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id7162">Bone
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=108 sb_id="ms__id7165">Donald Taylor
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=36 sb_id="ms__id7168">

7​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=48 sb_id="ms__id7171">

4180​

</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id7174">American Pit Bull Terrier
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=144 sb_id="ms__id7177"><ST1LACE sb_id="ms__id7179"><ST1:CITY sb_id="ms__id7180">Cadillac</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE sb_id="ms__id7183">MI</ST1:STATE></ST1LACE> (2002)
</TD></TR><TR sb_id="ms__id7185"><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=32 sb_id="ms__id7186">150
</TD><TD style="PADDING-LEFT: 5.4pt" vAlign=top width=71 sb_id="ms__id7189">Mollee
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there is a member on this board with a stafford bitch @32-34lbs which pulled 1500lbs on rails and 1433lbs on wheels.

 

It's like allaboutpitbull said. Big muscles use up oxygen. If you look at BJJ and MMA fighters these days you see that most of the successfull fighters are lanky with lean muscles and good cardio. Stocky guys usually get off to a good start with good pressure. But when their opponents are able to survive the initial attack, they usually ware out the big muscle guys in the end.

 

Good logic here...in reference to sports, the Klitcho's comes to mind and winded they looked if the fights went into later rounds despite being in good physical shape.

 

So would it be safe to say the bull terrier has most brute force but the pitbull is more of an athlete?

 

I don't think you can make this generalization. Lots of strong APBT and sometimes you can find athletic bull terriers (rare here in the statEs). I'm no expert though. Only owned pet APBT and SBTs. Never done any formal work with them. I think what sets the APBT apart is desire/gameness. But there are tons of useless APBTs around. The shelters are full of them here in the city I live in.