For the love or the Money

italian2feathers · Feb 10, 2006

simms said:

Ya think...LOL

Bow out & bowing down are two different actions

I don't think I'm the one who's being negative...LOL I didn't tell anyone to get fucked...LOL

I been messin with these dogs along time, and in more cases than not I've seen those that have great "intentions" fail this breed. Sure you want to do good, but you are only looking and living in the moment...This breed can not afford that type of luxury.
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that's straight, or whatever, this is gonna keep going on and on and on and on but i really wasn't referring to you. i can accept advice, but not that i'm bad for a breed and oh my God, my reputation points!!! lmao thanks for all the GOOD advice and info people.

italian2feathers · Feb 10, 2006

Texasbulldogs said:

Ok, I understand the knowledge part but if the dog don't turn out that knowledge just went out the door with the piss poor dog.
It “not turning out” is always a possibility but that odds are much greater of it not buying from individuals without a proven tract record!

Tex</FONT></ST1:p, I understand what your saying but proven past breedings will make breeders look smarter than they really are.
Not if they have a proven track record spanning generation after generation! A truly knowledgeable breeder with a proven track record of success has a standard and some sort of objective that is being sought by their breeding. But sadly most “breeders” only objective is to create puppies-that’s about as much vision as they have! This is why most “breeders” are thrilled if their breeding’s produce 1 or 2 pups that work out.

Takes and breeds them and sales them for 1,000 + without any past understanding of what he is making.
I’ve never said they should-sadly though that’s the first thing most want to do is breed. Yet most are clueless to how their dog is breed, what the littermates are like, general tendency of said bloodline, how the parents where, etc. but breed their mutt they will!

Even a knowledgeable breeder has to study the outcome of a breeding before and after the deed.
A knowledgeable breeder will always know more about their line then anyone else and is constantly striving to improve it. A true breeder doesn’t live they the stupid statement “good dogs are where you find them”! They have the vision and knowledge to create them not blindly living life hoping to stumble upon a “good one”. When it comes to “breeders” is isn’t the person that stumbles upon a good dog that means anything, nor is it the person who by chance happens to breed a good dog that means anything-it’s the person that consistently puts a good FAMILY together that means something! A breeder is a person who recognize not just a superior dog, but who know the difference between a “lucky” superior dog, and a superior dog that was created as a result of a superior genetic planning.

300.00 is a good all around price for any gameline as I see it.
I disagree being you can’t even by you dress blue jacket for that. But will say that $300 is way too much for what most breed and sale!

Here in NC gamedogs are a dime a dozen
I’m sure there are as in most states-but 90% of them dogs shouldn’t have ever been produced. Most as we all know shouldn’t breed yet seems to be the first thing most want to do.

You don't have to pay or pay high prices for a good dog just look around for what you like and you'll find it soon enough.
Not sure anyone has said a person should pay high prices, I know I haven’t? Just saying some dog’s and some breeding are well worth the price they are asking.

It Sounds To Me That You Are One Of Those People Who Seem To Charge Say 1,000 Or 2,000 Dollars For A Dog Maybe More
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You Didnt Like How I Said That No Dog Is Worth That Much Money.
Not that I didn’t “like it” more so I find it stupid for someone to think certain breeding’s aren’t worth “X” amount of money. But judging by that you statements I’d guess you’re the type that believe “good dogs are where you find them”.

Say You Charge 5,000 A Dog Times That By Say 9 Dogs To Be Modest thats 45,000 Dollars
Come on-you’re going to extremes on the prices now. Though there are some key dog’s that would be well worth $5000 but an entire litter…come on unless one could go back in time, then that would even be cheap for some litters.

For The Fourth Question You <ST1:p<st1laceName w:st="on">Didnt</st1laceName> <st1laceType w:st="on">State</st1laceType></ST1:p Exactley What I Typed, You Typed What You Needed To Type To Make Yourself Look. Good
Well I don’t nor did I mistype what you said to make myself look “better”! For your own ease I attached a picture for you to prove just that.

As For Question Number 5 Again You Twisted It To Make Your Self Look Good
Here we go again with the accusations…this time you’ll have to do your own scrolling and realize what I put was exactly what you typed!

the Reason I Never Charged Over That Is Because I Am Not Looking To Live Off Of My Dogs
How is charging a fare market price for a dog-living off them? Amazing how most are minimalist yet demand maximum! If you don’t believe that a well breed dog of proven genetic make up is not worth more than a run of the mill mutt-than good for you. But the reality of it is the price you are saying a dog is “worth” is for the most part cheaper than they was going for in the 60-70’s.

For One It Is A Dog Nothing More Nothing Less.
You say that yet I’d venture to say if it quitted or decided to turn into a wall jumper you wouldn’t be say…hey it’s ok after all it’s only a dog.

You Try To Say It Is Medical Costs, And Then When You Get Pulled On The Carpet By Someone Who Has Been Doing It Longer Than You Have Been Alive And Doesnt Charge A Arm And A Leg For His Dogs U Attack Him
When did I try to validate a “price” based solely on “medical cost”? You need to come back to reality you haven’t “pulled any carpet”! You been doing it longer than I’ve been alive-that would be true if you’re stating the truth. But I find is odd someone doing it for 50 years-still having to use other “breeders” stock instead of having the vision and foresight to of created their own in that time frame. Also please show me where I “attacked” you!

see To Me Love Of The Breed Means You Do Not Want To Get Rich Off Of It, It Means You Want To Better It
Name one person that’s became “rich” off these dogs…you can’t! How can a person that values themselves and their dogs so little “better the breed”?

you know who i'm talking about
Nope have no clue who you’re talking about! If talking about me…simply state it no need to beat around the bush like in elementary school. You not going to hurt my feelings by stating whatever it is, you feel you need to say.
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i wasn't speaking to you, and thanks for "permission", i will if i need to.

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