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Handler's Meeting

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by CanineAthletes, May 1, 2023.

  1. CanineAthletes

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    My name is Andy Seguss and I’ve owned performance bred American Pit Bull Terriers at scale for over 29 years. Over this time, I’ve titled many dogs in the ADBA with my most well-known being G/C X TD Lucio and his father Sniper POE. I’ve been an ADBA conformation judge since 2015 and I've judged 26 events since then including 8 international assignments. I’m the 2017 ADBA Dogman of the Year award winner as well as the ADBA’s most requested judge in 2015 & 2017. I don’t say this to boast, but to give some insight as to my experience with the breed, both inside & outside of the show ring. Experience that can’t be obtained by skipping steps and being impatient. I’m a student and protector of the American Pit Bull Terrier and they have been an inseparable part of my life since childhood.

    The most common question I get after judging a conformation show is: “What didn’t you like about my dog?” My response is always the same. I simply tell them, “It’s not that I did not like your dog. It’s that there were other dogs in your class that more closely fit my interpretation of the ADBA’s written conformation standard.” You see, as a judge for the ADBA my job is not to choose my favorite dogs. My job is to assess each dog and determine which dogs most closely fit the written standard set forth by the ADBA. If there was no standard to evaluate the dogs against, the selections would likely be much different.

    The ADBA’s written conformation standard calls for a balanced, structurally sound dog with breed type. Breed type is the essence of a breed. It is the collection of specific characteristics, when taken together, separate one breed from another. If a dog cannot perform the task for which it was developed, it cannot represent its breed. If you are not familiar with the ADBA conformation standard I urge you to study it if you are serious about competing in the conformation ring. Understanding what conformation judges are looking is the first step to selecting which dogs will give you the best chance to win.

    In 2014, I attended a seminar given by the late Pat Hastings; a world renowned AKC conformation judge. She was an expert on structure and movement and how it applies to performance and longevity. This quote by Pat beautifully summarizes the importance of type in our breed. “Purpose is an essential component of type, whether the breed still does what it was bred to do. We are the guardians of these breeds and maintaining proper type is one of our most fundamental responsibilities.”

    I’ve dedicated my life to the American Pit Bull Terrier. I’ve sacrificed more than most can ever imagine for this breed. As such, I take my responsibilities as a breed judge very seriously. Judging dogs is not an exact science. It is subjective. Each show comes with many variables which can alter the results. The judge’s acumen, the competition, the weather, handling (or lack thereof), etc. I could go on forever as the variables are seemingly endless. As a judge, I only have a few minutes inside the ring to examine each dog. Will all of my selections be perfect? Probably not… but nonetheless perfection is the goal. Remember, judging dogs in the conformation ring is ‘subjective’. Everyone will not always agree with my choices and I understand that. At the end of the day I have to a moral obligation to the breed, the competitors, the ADBA and to myself to be unbiased, fair and diligent. The best representatives of the American Pitbull Terrier should be placed and I should be proud of my selections. That is what I intend to do every time I enter the show ring to judge. It's important to understand that I will not be meticulously searching for imperfections in your dogs. All dogs have imperfections. Some more than others; but they all have them. I will be on a quest for dogs of virtue. Dogs of substance. Keep in mind, an absence of faults does not guarantee a presence of virtues… and a lack of virtues is the greatest fault of all!

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  2. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Great read.

    I am a big fan of the confirmation keepers. I believe it is a big part of the dogs.

    I carried my son to a AADR/SDR type show in NC many years ago. We had a little Bolio/Eli bred male that was a really good looking dog.

    My son was maybe 10-11. He was in the junior handler class with a 10 month old puppy. To our dismay he won best puppy. Then they called them back up and he won whatever group was next and then again a little while later. Finally it was best in show and the guy that won had a picture of Chinaman and Frisco on his shirt. My son was ultracompetitive and border line sore loser at times. After the show when they were passing out trophies we told him that the judge was the guy who owned the Chinaman dog and bred the Frisco dog. My son was hot and the "adults" in our group just egged him on for several minutes.

    When Mr. G tried to hand him his trophy he wouldn't shake his hand. I had to step in and give him a reminder about he would carry himself.

    In his old room still to this day his award and pic with Mr. G is hanging on his wall. He slid the picture down in the award so he could see himself and his puppy. Mr. G has been covered up in that frame for 12-14 years now.

    That is about as much pit bull confirmation as I know. LOL

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  3. tomjones2

    tomjones2 Big Dog

    Highly impressive Sir! Myself a big fan of a well confirmed dog, a thing of beauty.
    The makes the breed so great, in my inexperienced and ignorant opinion, is that those sought after traits are secondary perhaps tertiary in the true test of the animal, the pit. It’s where the intangibles come to the fore and separate perhaps a perfectly confirmed specimen from a winner…
    And as result we are left with a breed so diverse in phenotype, as selection was based on one thing, winning, for the most part…
     

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