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Discussion in 'Laws & Legislation' started by AGK, Jan 1, 2020.

  1. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    Unreal. These constant new laws or proposals are getting a bit ridiculous here now. If you care at all, and if you have dogs that live outdoors in kennels/chainspots/pens you should because this will trickle down to you eventually if it passes, if your in the U.S. Please take a moment to call, email or fax to tell these parasite ass legislators to VOTE NO ON HB-2104.


    Even if you're not in Pa or the U.S it only takes a few minutes of your time to help shut these things down. Don't keep letting these AR fucks continue to dictate law!

    121A East Wing
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    Harrisburg, PA 17120-2177
    Fax: (717)705-2098

  2. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    That shit is craaaaaazy... no dogs outside?!?!
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  3. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    For more than 15 minutes. Can you believe this crap. There are a TON of sporting and hunting dogs in Pa. It's so frustrating. I planned on getting a heated building up this spring anyways so they can eat a dick but it's the idea that they are killing any type of working breeds off in the long run. So many people have dogs that hunt in the winter and they have to be acclimated to the temperature to work in it. It's a extremely over reaching law being purposed.
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  4. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    It is back door Breed Specific Legislation. If a few hunting dogs get caught up in the removal of the APBT that is nothing more than collateral damage.

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  5. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    Those rainbow mother F###.
  6. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    That exactly how I feel F### all.
  7. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    That kind of thing kills a part of the American culture. Hunting is as old is man. Hunting with dogs is the next oldest way to hunt. Sad af
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  8. Holocaust

    Holocaust Match dog

    They don't care about that. It's all about the knee jerk "what about my poor house dog" not realizing the dogs are light years apart...

    They have no concept of a working dog and try to train the natural instinct of their dogs out of them.

    All they care about is what they would want for their dogs and to push it on you and yours so their feelings arent hurt when they see something they dont understand.. history, freedom, instinct, etc are all non factors
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  9. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Just my opinion people, but if you folks in USA knew what the UK government done with regard to working and hunting dogs and them who owned them, then you'd probably be camped outside and screaming at the Whitehouse right now.. It's not that you can't keep dogs outside in UK (you can) it's just you can't hunt with them, which then leads to the blind, blanket assumption by any local authority, why would anyone keep a pet outside? Sort of neglectful and unfair treatment of a 'PET DOG' isn't it?

    It's about how you interpret law and who interprets it! Maybe one person in your local authority thinks what's the problem with keeping dogs outside for hunting hogs or rabbits, while the neo liberal, vegan, LGBT rainbow flag warrior wants your dogs seized, turned into fashion accessory fur babies for his/her/it's transgender lobbyist friends or damn well culled..

    My understanding of USA from this side of the Atlantic is if you defame a black person on the basis of their colour or try banning fire arms, then the government gonna have issues since race relations and right to bare arms are enshrined in the American constitution.. The law is clear and unmovable on that (supposedly) I think Britain probably the most prohibitive society in the western world now, I won't even go into the restrictive dog laws over here, maybe other UK members will contribute their thoughts and experiences, but for maybe the past 10 years I've thought about importing a dog or frozen breeding from USA and never done it for the simple reason the laws over here regarding the APBT are so prohibitive and unclear since the introduction of DDA 1991 that it's like gambling £2000 on a horse race over whether you'd actually succeed in getting a return!

    I think I could import a Presa Canaria, Doggo, American Bully Max, Boerboel or Caucasian Shepard the size of a Grizzly bear, but an American Pit Bull Terrier? The law here isn't even clear over whether APBT are still a banned breed? It's a fucking mess! It's almost impossible to navigate since theirs no clear legislation.. It suits the city living careerist set, the neo liberals and rainbow warriors because it doesn't affect them anyway and pretty soon it's coming to an area near you!
  10. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Don't Forget it!
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  11. well said @Old Guy!!

    Freinds in the States...please heel what me and OG says..
    stick together folks..stick together is the most importent aspect.
    Ireland stick together and they doing ok.
    stick together folks.....
    that would be my main advice.

    this bullshit is world wide now..its how the world has become.

    All the best freinds...
    stick together now.and dont let these cunts tell you how to live.
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  12. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    We are listening soze and Old guy. we are going to stand our ground and fight.
  13. Is right David...

    happy new year folks.
    and keep on scratching!
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  14. magnoilaotis

    magnoilaotis Top Dog

    Bingo!!! They pacified us with BSL repeals and the lack of new BSLs being proposed all the while they have been sneak attacking from a different angle. I remember in the early 2000's they would introduce a pit bull ban every year in Tennessee. Now that the pet protectors have realized what great dogs these are the anti-bulldog folk had to switch tactics because they knew those fur mommy's and daddy's ain't going for it. I lived in Nashville about 7 years ago before a pit bull rescue group moved in right down the street and they started harassing people who kept dogs tethered outside. Animal control was sent to my house 3 times and each time they would look at the dogs, tell me have a nice day and leave kind of pissed they got called for nothing. After the third time I moved to the sticks as quick as i could. Two years later Nashville had anti-tethering laws and you couldn't keep your dogs outside if the temp dropped to something like 32F. They got the ball rolling with bulldogs and have hunting dogs square in there sights. Hopefully the hunters will win out because they aren't quite the pariahs us bulldog people are yet.
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  15. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    Happy New Year to you Soze. Yes I will keep fighting for my guns and my dogs.
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  16. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    I cant see how this would go through. What about farm/cattle dogs and guard dogs? I just cant see how it could go through and how it could be enforced. but who knows stranger things have happened.
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  17. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    To enforced it your neighbor or somebody would have to report you to animal control.
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  18. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    They are going to have a lot on there plate then. Probably go after more folks in the bigger city's and those they have dealt with before. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
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  19. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    A number of people were popped when they put up a $5K reward. The yards were 'stumbled upon' while conducting other business.

    So when they ask, who has dogs tied out? John Q. Public pretty much does not care until there is some cash on the other end. They would then turn in their own mother for a couple-three dollars.

    Maybe not that drastic, but it makes a point.

    Not the same but.....where we live I have to have a permit to build anything. Most every home repair requires a permit. The 'farm' adjacent to me, maybe 8-10 acres between our houses doe snot require a permit. I live on 10+ acres and someone can tell me where and when and how I can put up a johhny house.

    To the point of enforcing the tethering laws. The lady at the court house spends every other Friday in a room alone. She has last years' Google maps compared to this years. If there is a new structure the inspector is sent to check it out/force a permit.

    Look at any yard from an aerial view. A chain spot is pretty hard to miss. Usually a perfect circle of dirt with a pretty good contrast of grass surrounding the spot. They can Google map an entire county in an hour or so.

    I doubt they will need anyone to tell them much of anything.

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