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the flynn strain

Discussion in 'SBT History' started by beanieman, Mar 8, 2010.

  1. beanieman

    beanieman Banned

    Some staffie info, i got
    The Flynn Strain

    Regarded as one of the gamest of the Stafford lines the Flynn Strain certainly has had its share of good dogs worthy of admiration. It all started with two brothers who liked the game trial dogs such as the Wheaten Terriers and the Staffordshire Bull Terriers.

    Over a period of time they obtained and bred some of their own versions, of how a game dog should be and it grew to be more than a few so it formed a Strain known as the Evergreen and Faranee stock. The Main foundation dogs included some of the dogs you will find in the Northford/Psycho line's background. Dogs like Hegarty's Black Tiger, Cork Rose, Mutton Skull and a dog of doubtful background, but known to be a hell of a worker, the mysterious "Lynchahaun".

    It was said that the Lynchahaun dog was stolen in England by a seaman who sold him to a priest named F. Jordan in Ireland. It was also said that the children in his parish tormented this priest so I guess he probably thought that the children would take to the dog and stop tormenting him. I guess the dog in the end made the tormenting stop, because when the children saw this dog they were quick on setting their dogs on him, but Lynchahaun would go ballistic and kill any dog they set on him and before to long the priest was let alone. This was probably heard about in the parish and since the dogs name appears behind a great many of the dogs from that area I guess it is safe to assume that someone thought he would be worth taking their bitch to.

    This dog was the Sire to many great Trial dogs, some of which are in the background of the Flynn dogs. He was the Sire to Moneys Pet, who was mated to Cork Rose's brother Faranee Lad. This mating produced two pups that later became known as Faranee boy and Evergreen Dolly.
    These were then mated to give Evergreen Patsy, a very good bitch, which was put to Gerry Allen's Geronimo dog. A lot of thought has gone into this breeding and it gave excellent results. Evergreen Patsy was also put to Barney, a staff/ EBT cross and Wolf Island Boy, which both appears in the pedigree of the Irish Jack dog, which is mentioned in the Dublin Red Strain section.
    The Flynn brothers were also involved in some of the breeding behind Ch. Psycho, such as Evergreen Tiny Peggy or Doneal Flynn's Old Peggy. The mating between Geronimo and Evergreen Patsy was a well thought out breeding as was breeding her back to her Sire Faranee Boy, which resulted in Max who was sent to Underwood in England. When bred to Geronimo it resulted in Paddy, Leo and Candy. Paddy and Candy were sent to Peter Western in England and Leo ended up with Joe Orday in the U.S.A.

    With these dogs now in England, a tight breeding program began. When Max was put to his half sister Candy, they produced Judy and Blue AKA Springview's Wolf. Judy was in turn put to Paddy, which resulted in Abby of Plymouth AKA Springview's Abby, Floyd of Plymouth, Bess of Plymouth and Slade of Plymouth.
    Floyd were put to his sister Bess and produced Cass of Plymouth and Limmerick Kennels Nelson.
    One of his matches were reported as following:
    The Potman's Blue Vs. Limerick Kennels Nelson.
    Blue, Sired by Ch. Smuggler comes in at 43 lb. Nelson a Flynn bred dog comes in at 39 lb.
    Fast pace with Blue on the shoulder, Nelson on the head and neck.
    Blue works the chest and shoulder most of the time and pushes Nelson about.
    Nelson is picked up at 21 minutes, and is counted out on his courtesy scratch.
    Winner Blue 21 minutes.
    Cass was put to a dog called Belcher of Taunton, out of Ch. Molly and Springview's Wolf, which produced two large dogs, Kane and Diablo. Kane was said to be no good, but Diablo was said to have done well in a 30 minutes roll with an APBT called Scotsman's Max.
    Slade of Plymouth was said to be a very game bitch, rolled into many dogs Staffords and APBT's, showing deep gameness. She was bred back to her father Paddy producing Peggy and Hooker. Peggy was later put to Springview's Wolf, producing two sons, Sonny and Jock. Hooker was put to Moonshine, Josh and Irish Jack, which gave good results
    Paddy of Plymouth was said to have won 7 matches in England and when put to a bitch from Rapparee lines called Lucky they produced a hell of a bitch called Molly. Ch.Molly was said to have won as much as 6 matches, but some was off the chain matches and not reported contract matches. Whatever the case may be she was a very game bitch.
    Since this mating was a total outcross it makes total sense that she was bred back to Springview's Wolf, making the pups ¾ Flynn ¼ Rapparee. She was however also bred to the Dublin Red Strain dog Russell's Red Joe, and the Psycho Strain dog Farmer Boys Jocko. Molly was bred back to Wolf on different occasions, producing Belcher of Taunton, Trap, Twister, Vicci, Rhona and Jed.
    Belcher of Taunton was matched against a Stafford/APBT cross in his first match and was picked up game in 1 hour and 31 minutes due to a re-broken leg. It was said that when he was a young dog he was kicked in the leg by a cow with the result that the leg was broken. Nevertheless he was put to his dam Molly, Springview's Abby, Cass of Plymouth and Sophie out of Kizzy and Milo.
    Twister was said to be a result of the second mating of Wolf and Molly and it was said that she did well against the Badgers. She was put across Sylas, out of Lee's Lightfoot by Johnson and threw some healthy pups. One bitch ended up in Sweden, where she was registered under a fake name and is now behind some show stock over there.
    Trap was said to be a very game dog and when put to his daughter Fly out of Flynn (Belcher x Sophie) it resulted in Taz and Tinker. Trap was also put to Joe's Bella (Jocko x Beanie II), producing Joe's Slade, which was mated with her half brother Taz producing City Dude's Molly, a very nice looking bitch
    Vicci was a litter sister to Belcher and it was said that she did very well against the badger, but that she never really proved herself against other dogs. It was said that she also was mated to Diablo.
    I don't have any info on what happened with Rona and Jed, but there are still a few dogs of this line around. This line never reached the popularity like the Dublin Red and the Northford/Psycho line did, but nevertheless they are highly regarded among the fancy.

     
  2. trap

    trap Pup

    The part about belcher going 1 hour 31 mins is rubbish as belcher was never matched.
     
  3. beanieman

    beanieman Banned

    Ok would not know was not there and as far as someone said this was written by eastfords.
     
  4. It might have been claimed that it was a match at some point in time, but it could as well have been a roll. Wouldn't be the first time in history that someone claimed a roll to be a match.
     
  5. trap

    trap Pup

    He was never rolled for that long.
     
  6. Heard he didn't last that long with Dillenger and Saab too.
     
  7. trap

    trap Pup

    dont think he was rolled with dillenger, 20 mins with saab.
     
  8. mixed-grill

    mixed-grill Big Dog

    Got any pics of the dogs out of TrapXBella...bet they was crackers!
     
  9. reids skipper

    reids skipper CH Dog

    he didn't do too well with dillinger ...dillinger and red joes owner told me this years ago.
     
  10. flynn

    flynn Pup

    There are good and bad dogs in every strain, the flynn strain wasnt as easy to get hold of as the other strains.There were and still are very good dogs and bitchs from that line but the men that had and still have them keep them keep them to their self.......the bitch slade was a very game bitch. YIS Flynn.
     
  11. evergreen

    evergreen Pup

    do you keep dogs off this line mate.
     
  12. darlo

    darlo Banned

    i had a good little bitch out of tinker 2
     
  13. maxwell

    maxwell Pup

    How much Flynn blood was in the bitch Darlo ..... it had to be atleast 3/4 Psycho !
     
  14. darlo

    darlo Banned

    tinker 2 was 1/2flynn i think ? an no flynn in jack so your right about 1/4
    cheers
     
  15. evergreen

    evergreen Pup

    Have any of you had a pure flynn stafford?
     
  16. maxwell

    maxwell Pup

    I doubt theres been any pure bred Flynn dogs for years now most of the "modern" bred Flynn dogs had CH Molly in there makes up,who was (going on the ped iv'e seen) a KC bred bitch
     
  17. flynn

    flynn Pup

    Ye we still have dogs from this strain, pure and some with a touch of red strain added,and none have molly in their ped. YIS Flynn.
     
  18. jacko

    jacko CH Dog

    give me a good rapparee , anyday ,,,
     
  19. maxwell

    maxwell Pup

    Thats interesting.... would like to a ped,,
     
  20. maxwell

    maxwell Pup

    would like to see a ped......:)
     

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