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Wolf Hybrids

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by Riptora, Jun 20, 2006.

  1. Riptora

    Riptora CH Dog

    I am posting a link to Leerburg's article on wolf hybrids ( I've been looking through the site lately )
    What does this have to do with game dogs?
    Well, for 1. A lot of people buy these animals for ego reasons, why else would you want one?
    2. They have a "bad rap" just like APBT's
    3. Most of us agree that genetics plays an ENORMOUS role in how you can expect an animal to act. As a game bred APBT will more than likely exhibit certain traits, you can only expect a hybrid to behave a certain way.
    4. So many people buy these animals completely unprepared and uneducated on what they are getting themselves into. Just like many new APBT owners.
    5. These animals are effected by BSL, as well as many other ordinences.

    I understand some of you may own a hybrid and there ARE indeed responsible owners out there. They are very far and few inbetween, just like game bred APBT's.

    http://leerburg.com/wolfcross.htm

    I loved wolves since I was a little girl. I read many books on them, included 'Of Wolves and Men' -twice and 'Never Cry Wolf'-three times. I watched several documentaries, researched online and had of course, stuffed animals, posters, etc. I used to believe they had a bad rap because most people are just plain afraid of wolves, and they are wonderful animals ( there has never been a reported killing of a human by a healthy, wild wolf ).

    I got a high-content wolf once a few years ago. She was the beta out of a pack of three. I had her a couple days and it didn't take more than one day before I realized I made a mistake. I thought I knew enough about dogs and wolves to own one. They are not pets, they don't want people around, they should not be bred. It's like breeding a human with an ape.

    Am I the only one kind of creeped out by the photo of the hybrid? I think wolves are breath taking, especially their eyes, but seriously, is it just me? or is that photo freaky?
     
  2. 14rock

    14rock GRCH Dog

    I do not like the idea of Wolf Hybrids, they are NOT pets, and alot of the people acquiring them make the mistake of thinking they can "love them and they will be a snuggly teddy bear". Wolves are wild animals, and to be happy need to stay wild. Not only is it dangerous for humans to contain them and attempt to make them their "pet", but its not right for a wild animal psychologically to be confined in a cage all day. Let the wild animals be....god knows most cant even get a domesticated animal without screwing it up.
     
  3. Attila

    Attila Guest

    I raised wolves in a none human contact environment to turn loose in various game reserves. They asked for volonteers and I grew up around them so I did it. I was very successful. No wolves don't make good pets for people unless the person is wild (cave man like not a partier) also. I did have one wolf get into the kennel with my old german shepherd and I put down all but one of them. Later that dog/wolf at 12 years of age was bred once by my cousins english mastiff. I didn't have any problems but many people have serious issues raising thise things. I don't that one should intentionally breed to make mix wolfs and dogs. For one you make a mighty hunter of prey that isn't scared of people. That is as dumb as $h!tt!ng under and running bush hog. I agree it is a poor idea.
    good answer rock.
     
  4. cemoreno

    cemoreno Top Dog

    My cousin owns a wolf named Macenzie. He is an exteremely loyal animal and very protective of the property. He is crazy smart and knows how to open doors and such. He always has to escort you to the house across the property. Was I afraid of him, yes but I didn't let him know it. My cousin lives in the sticks and when I say sticks I mean the back yard is about 100 acres of hunting lease property. I liked that wolf he was neat but I don't believe that they should be kept as pets. I also don't think that many of the wolf dogs out there are like Macenzie is.
     
  5. maryellen1

    maryellen1 Guest

  6. 14rock

    14rock GRCH Dog

    Yes, they are becomming extremely popular. Anyone and everyone who likes the look of a wolf can buy one from a byb. Such is the case with my crazy sister who has stopped taking her meds. She has bought a new wolfdog pup and will be bringing it home soon to live in her tiny APARTMENT complex to play with my neice and nephew. I am terrified, these are not housedogs, and are not for young children...especially ones who havent even been taught to properly interact with a domestic dog. This animal is going to "disappear" as soon as it arrives at her home.
     
  7. maryellen1

    maryellen1 Guest

    oh no! if people want a dog that looks like a wolf, get a husky or mal... just make sure they have lots of energy for the dog... and lots of patience with shedding...
     
  8. JuicyCa

    JuicyCa Big Dog

    I think the dog in the photo is beautiful-like all wolves are. My mom has always loved wolves, so it's natural that I would find myself with an affinity for them. There was a time when I tought having a hybrid would be lovely, but then I woke up and smelled the coffee. Wolves are NOT meant to be pets. It's not fair to put them in a cage and expect them to "forget" their instincts. How dare people breed wild animals with dogs and think they'd make good pets-not to mention that they're most likely dangerous. Wolves are meant to be free. Even a hybrid's wild animal instincts would overcome the side of him that is "tame".
     
  9. NCPatchwork

    NCPatchwork CH Dog

    I agree. I have seen entirely too many people hurt by these "teddy bears" and I am worried that one day I will go outside and my dog will be hurt because of someone's ignorance. I'm sorry, but I disagree with having a wolf hybrid. If you want the look, get a Husky or a Malemute (spelling?)
     
  10. 14rock

    14rock GRCH Dog

    I would also like to state my uncle has/had one and in his situation, I dont think it was a bag thing. He lived on literally hundreds of acres, and had about 50 acres fenced in. The dog got to run around like a wolf all day long until feeding time when he would throw some meat over the fence for it, and it would take off. You've got to let the animal be wild, or else I think its as cruel as anything.
     
  11. JuicyCa

    JuicyCa Big Dog

    Well, that situation is an exception to what most people are trying to do with these dogs. That seems like a pretty good arrangement for your uncle and his hybrid. Sadly, it seems as though this is not the case most times.
     
  12. 14rock

    14rock GRCH Dog

    Exactly, 99% of the time, these animals shouldnt of been bred.
     
  13. asaj

    asaj Big Dog

    I just dont understand! Humans have spent hundres? tousands ?of years domesticating wolfs, so we can have our dogs. And now we want to put back the "wild" in them again????
    Wolfs are beautiful, but should not be mixed with any other domesticated animal.
     
  14. Verderben

    Verderben CH Dog

    why would you want to mix a wolf with a dog anyways. That doesnt even make sense. They are generally not good with other pets , not good with kids, not good with people in general. You put that hunting instint back in them but yet add the dog part that makes them not afraid of humans and you have a disaster on your hands. Why would anyone want to do that?
     
  15. Riptora

    Riptora CH Dog

    I have to agree that she sounds nothing like a hybrid. Keep in mind that 2/3rds of wolf hybrids bought from breeders are 100% dog. I have known so many people claim there was wolf in their chow chow or husky. I even had a friend try to convince me his red nose had wolf in him. I even had a client who most definately had a hybrid ( the animal was dangerous too ) and he claimed it was a breed of dog called a Malloot... yeah right. It was agressive, fearful, untrained, enormous and flown in from Alaska as a souvenier from his wife. People like to think they can tame a wild animal, so sometimes they just believe their dog is part wolf. A skin sample will tell for sure what the content is. Macenzie sounds like a great pet, well trained, protective and obedient... she doesn't sound anything like a hybrid to me.
    Wolves are safe in the wild. The fact is they don't kill people or even try to. Dogs are less safe than wild wolves, but are great as well. Hybrids are a mess of genes, almost like a mutant animal.
     
  16. simms

    simms CH Dog

    This animal is going to "disappear" as soon as it arrives at her home.

    I'm a fan of that Idea!
     
  17. Verderben

    Verderben CH Dog

    There is a guy down the street from me that has some mutts. the one looks like a small GSD mix. He claims id is 98% "red wolf" and he used to have a female pit bull shar pei mix. They had puppies everytime that dog went in heat. They all always came out lookin like run of the mill shepherd mixes. and he would sell them as wolf hybrids. The guy is a moron.
     
  18. Riptora

    Riptora CH Dog

    98% red wolf? Shouldn't they be at the zoo? That is an extremely rare type. I watched a special on the red wolf and they captured all they could find in the wild. They did skin tests on all of them and found that very few of them were 100%. They are so endangered that most of them resorted to breeding with coyotes. Red wolves are almost non existant.

    Your neighbor is an idiot, but at least he's not selling real hybrids. The problem with that is they might make good pets and that's were all these activists come from, thinking that the "hybrids" they owned or knew where safe, when in fact they were all dog.
     

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